Yi's offensive game got worse with the Bucks

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  1. yinets1860

    yinets1860 i love this game !

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    i think YI's first season in Bucks is not successful,he always shots removed from basketry,but he is a PF,he should points in paint。
     
  2. Dumpy

    Dumpy Yi-ha!!

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    I understand that threads like these are started by Yi fans that haven't followed or watched much Nets basketball. That's fine, and we all welcome these sorts of discussions. However, you have to trust posters like Ghoti, who has a more complete perspective on things.

    One thing to understand is that, while Carter is a prolific scorer, he is also a very capable ball handler--and he is more than willing to give the ball up to an open teammate instead of taking all the shots himself. In fact, that is often one of the criticisms about him. Last year, for instance, despite playing a totally crappy team, with below average shooters for teammates, and playing on an ankle that required surgery, Carter was one of only ten players that averaged 20 points and 5 assists, including point guards. Of the 30 other players that averaged 20+ PPG, 17 took more shots than he did, which includes some big men that will have much higher FG percentages.

    Carter will find the open man. If Yi shows he is a consistent shooter, he will get a chance. Also, if Yi can sprint down the court with Devin Harris, he will get chances to score.

    Finally, since the important thing is not whether Yi scores points but if the Nets win, if the defense is forced to pay attention to him, Carter will be infinitely more effective.
     
  3. YehYeh

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    Don't get me wrong, guys. The team we have is well put together. The perimeter shooting will be the best we have ever had. I'm just pointing out that Brook should be under the basket, and Yi at high post, no matter what. Would you rather have Vince doing 360's and getting 10 fouls or Brook and Yi stuffing? (btw, good news. Both Brook and Yi are excellent FT shooters)

    If Yi is in the corner, he is next to useless. He needs to be near the paint to be effective. JUst look at those vids, and see where he plays. If Frank thinks we'd have a better team with another shooter at 4, then we should trade Yi somewhere else where he can develop into the superstar we'll all wish we had back.
     
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  4. Dumpy

    Dumpy Yi-ha!!

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    Coach Frank works hard to put all players in a position where they can succeed. I'm confident that he will utilize Yi in acordance with his skills.
     
  5. YiOF

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    I totally disagree. Nets are in a rebuilding mode, I don't need to watch the Nets game to know that. Is Nets winning really more important than Yi scoring points? in another word, is Nets winning a few more games next season more important than developing all the young players? I think not.

    If Nets are using Yi to be a consistent jump shooter and run the floor on fast break, that's no different than what he was doing in Milwaukee. You might as well traded for Jason Kapono if you want consistent jump shooting. Yi doesn't need anyone to pass him the ball to shoot jumpers, he's 7 feet and can shoot over smaller perimeter defenders anytime he wants to, at least that's what a 7 footer should be able to do if he has the shooting range. It's a matter whether you want to develop Yi into a good role player or develop him into an offensive force. I still think post play is where Yi's value truly are.

    I don't think Nets traded away RJ and Kidd to get better players to complement VC, so he can get to the basket easier. Nets are rebuilding, it should be VC who are complementing the Young players, so that Yi or Lopez or Swat can get to the basket easier. I see VC as a transitional piece that will make developing young players easier.
     
  6. Malorkayel

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    You're getting ahead of yourself. I've watched almost all of Yi's NBA games last season. I also watched a few Nets games, I'm in NY.

    Dumpy is correct, Yi will be fine in the Nets system. It will be better than Milwaukee. VC will not freeze Yi out of the offense like Redd and Mo Williams. Harris is a better guard than Mo.

    The rest is up to Yi to prove himself and stay mentally strong for the season.
     
  7. Malorkayel

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    I hear Yi will be reporting to the Nets at NJ on Monday.
     
  8. ffz

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    me 2 hopefully he can learn something during that time. Last season he had to arrive late because of National Team duties.
     
  9. Kidd Karma

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    Yi definitely has game, they all do. I think there was a lot of off court distractions for Yi to work on his game. The offensive side is always the side that suffers when you lack work. With the off court stuff out of the way, I can see him developing into 12-8 easily this year.
     
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    yea, Yi can definitely shoot. He needs to work on his strength and his weak hands. Correct me if I am wrong about this, He almost never dunk with one hand. The few times that he did, he looked extremely uncomfortable. It almost seemed that he had trouble palming the ball, I don't know how that's possible with the huge hands he supposedly has. and sometimes when he's receiving a pass, the ball bounces off his hand. He needs to get that fixed.
     
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    I remember Yao was the same way when he came into the NBA, complete lack of upper body strength. Hopefully he can develop like Yao because I've heard Yao can now bench 300+ pounds (SI article) which is comparable to Dwight Howard.
     
  14. Kidd Karma

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    Yi will be fine. He will on an NBA in season weight training plan and should be able to add that muscle over the next 2 seasons. He has a great feel for the game. He has to learn that he has to be out there consistently, not wait for his turn, it's a 5 man game. Concentrate on his strengths, which is rebounding and weakside defending. His paint game will come, he will get banged around with Brook/SWAT every day at practice and that should help his game, an athletic guy and a big body.
     
  15. kdub

    kdub Cal's best coming to the Swamp!

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    Damn.

    Didn't coaches/trainers also improve Yao's hands by making him catch tennis balls?
     

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