What if I told you no one is going to hell?

Yes, but you missed the point. If it's effectively impossible for a human to choose not to sin, humans do not actually have free will in the matter.

 

I believe they do. As one chooses to kill their neighbor, the other chooses not to. But their actions create a universal reaction to the entire universe. And you believing in mass murder as some "morality issue" is of mankind's perception. Would the sun be unmoral if at one point of time it sent a solar flare to Earth that completely wiped out all of civilization?

 

some do, probably not most.

 

Do you agree that time and space was created the moment the universe expanded?

 

You're still missing the point, which is just a statistical argument - not really concerned with theology at the moment. If humans have any significant amount of free will with which to choose not to sin, wouldn't you expect at least a few out of 100 billion to choose not to?

As Minstrel pointed out, you're (again) making the implication that God does not have free will.

 

I don't know. I don't even know if that's a meaningful question.

 

Everything that can happen, will happen. That's the idea behind quantum branching...there's a universe for every possibility.

However, being able to "view" everything would be omniscience (all-knowing), not omnipotence (all-powerful). An omnipotent god would have been able to craft that "map" as you call it exactly to its specifications. There's no reason why "balance" would be required, unless it desired balance. Which would then lead to asking why it desires balance. What's the benefit?

 

Well then you not knowing could why you are so agnostic.

The common or popular belief for a naturalist is that something eternal exists. Singularity must have already had all expansion, creation, etc that makes the universe go round pre-deposition within itself. So time and space was already there for an eternal object

 

No. It is in our nature to sin.

Absolutely not. God's free will has nothing to do with the free will in this universe.

 

The balance is required to obtain "free will". Our actions have more implication to the state of this universe than you think, IMO.

 

Here's another way to look at this: there is a possible universe in which every human always makes the "right" (moral) choice. It might be almost infinitely unlikely, but whatever probability you place on a human making the moral choice given an opportunity, there's some (almost) infinitesimally small likelihood that each time an opportunity comes along for every human across all time, they just happen, of their own free will, to choose the "right" thing.

God, being omnipotent and omniscient, could see all the possible universes ahead of time and choose to make, as reality, the one in which every human made every correct choice. This is another way to understand that free will and "always good" or "perfect" aren't mutually exclusive.

 

I'm not an unbeliever, I'm Dognostic.

 

Even if it's worth zero, if you put our universe on ebay under "collectibles," someone would bid it up just for all the Star Wars content in it.

 

I disagree. With how we see this universe doesn't have anyone that is always good or evil. And this "shape" could take place the moment the new "heaven and earth" is created. As it is written in the Bible. And it could be quite possible when that time comes, our choice of "free will" is over.

 

Again, you speak as if there's no omnipotent god and things just "happen." An omnipotent god can choose the "shape," and it could choose the universe in which every human happened to make the correct moral decision. While we see no purely good or evil people, every opportunity to make a choice carries a probability that someone will make one choice or another. That probabilistic nature means that there's a chance (an exceedingly tiny one, but still a chance) that all humans could make the right choices. In our universe, obviously, they haven't...but since the chance is there, there is a possible universe where they did. And an omnipotent god could have chosen that universe in which free-willed humans just happened to make only wise choices.

 

But as you said "that is not truly free will" and even a perfect God or "omnipotent" one would understand that choice must have potential evil.

 

I don't think you're quite understanding. The choice can have potential evil, but there still exists a possible universe were each human never makes the evil choice even though they could have.

Thus, humans still have free will but, due to the possible universe that god selected to make real, no evil choices are actually made.