Miami Heat Dame Trade Ideas and Rumors

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  1. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    I thought the Heat front office was supposed to be pretty good talent evaluators. Here is one pre-draft evaluation: https://nbadraftroom.com/nikola-jovic/
     
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    Can we give UTH a future first and $5M to have Ainge negotiate this for us?
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I'm completely stumped as to why Herro seems to have a market...... but Simons did not.

    Did we actually try to trade Simons?
     
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    Word on the street is that Simons drinks like a fish.
     
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    I love his passing skills in the video the link provides. I can see why people like him. He still needs to add some weight but maybe he is the main prize in the trade. He might have slid in the draft but Claxton slid as well.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Simons had a market for picks and similar type players. Not for two way wings.

    And I don't see any two way wings available for picks either.
     
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    I feel like I’d rather just take Ben’s deal for the next two years and get an extra 1st or Noah Clowney from the Nets. I’d also like the 2029 PHX 1st. Otherwise, I think your trades are solid. Not having ONeal means that we can’t flip him to the Bulls for our 1st back, but why do that now when we’re going to be bad at least the next one or two seasons?
     
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    that's not likely at all, IMO. Miami's 2026 pick will be more valuable than their 2024 pick, and OKC already owns the 2026 pick, unprotected.

    the only thing OKC might be willing to do is release their hold on the 2025 pick since it's lottery protected while the 2026 is unprotected. Unprotected picks are more valuable than lottery protected picks. And in 2026 Dame will be 36 and Butler 37 so Miami might not be as good

    but even if OKC did that freeing up Miami's 2024 first, that pick would likely be in the 25-30 range. Not much value for Portland.
     
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    If Herro had value, Ant would have value, and Joe would have made a trade.
     
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    why are people excited about the contortions necessary for Portland to get a 1st next season that would likely be in the 25-30 range?

    I get that people want to squeeze every drop of blood possible from Miami, I'm in favor of it too, but it seems to be a lot of focus on a minor asset. It's a molehill and there are mountains to climb

    and there's no reason for OKC to cooperate by giving up draft leverage, without getting something in return.
     
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    I would much much much rather have a 2026 pick.
     
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    I haven't seen a lot of people around here who thinks Herro has much value.
     
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    Herro is a better player... :)
     
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    Simons is going to be the best shooter on the team next season. I have my doubts Cronin did much of anything to trade Ant. If he did, the GM knew he would get laughed at and hung up on.

    "hi there Philadelphia, how about Simons/Nurkic and 3 protected 2nd rounders for Embiid??"

    .... "LOLOLOL click"
     
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    Not here..... no.

    But I was listening to the Locked on Nets podcast just gushing about the idea of adding Herro to their team.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Not really. Not for the extra money. They're both shooters and Simons is arguably the better shooter.

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    this is a completely different equation. Brooklyn is looking at getting Herro, possibly while dumping Simmons. And all it may cost them is a couple of future 1st's.

    meanwhile Ant was welded to #3 and being offered for Bridges, Siakam, and Zion. Portland likely wouldn't have any better luck attaching Herro to #3 than they did Ant
     
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    I like Simons better than Herro. Ant can score in more ways, play some point, and is cheaper.
    Neither is known for their D
     
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    I noticed you didn't highlight the two defensive metrics.

    Herro is a much better rebounder; a 9% rebound rate is actually pretty good for a SG. He's a little better passer. Herro was measured 2.25" taller at the combine. He's a year younger. And he's big enough to have some wing versatility...Ant has none

    I'd much rather have Herro than Ant. But the reality is I'd rather not have either. They both have some of the same flaws

    I'm curious, what are the ways that Ant can score that Herro can't?
     
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