Scoot Henderson thread

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  1. BankTeller

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    I won’t say this is an unfair take right now. At times, his handle does look kind of clunky and I’m not sure why. People have mentioned the size of his hands, but I didn’t see this being an issue in the GL.

    The difference between Scoot and those two though are that teams DO respect Scoot’s size and speed. When we gets into the paint, it does look like he can move guards out of the way. Two years ago in Ant’s breakout game, I saw Ant just move Trae out of the way getting to the basket. I’m excited for when Scoot can harness his speed/power. I still think he’s going to be a combination of Russ and Bledsoe as a player.
     
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    Russell Westbrook was bad offensively when he came into the league at 20. But he got to the line 2x as much as Scoot (per 36). Scoot isn't really showing the knack for getting to the rim that was advertised. He's no Westbrook/Morant/Rose, coupled with the fact he'll most likely only ever be an average at best shooter, his career isn't looking good.

    It seems like he'll be a servicable player, but no star.
     
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    Another worrying game tonight.
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    He simply has to work on his shooting a LOT. These numbers are ok for now but teams know he can't shoot. There is no reason to guard him up top. bad bad bad
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    He may have a case of the yips.

    His shooting numbers are historically bad for a rookie.
     
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    I think it's decision making for now and shooting in the long run. Right now he should be exploiting his strength, quickness and speed advantages. We saw one play out of him tonight where he easily blew by everyone and made a sick reverse layup. More of that, more defense without so much fouling, continue making the right pass and let the shot come along... no more pull up threes for now. The young guy could be impacting these games a lot more for the positive if he'd just do what he's already good at. I think that will come soon, the shot from distance might take a while.
     
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    We better have shooting around him though. Because in today’s NBA if you’re not any kind of threat of a jump shot it hampers you much harder. Unless you’re doing all the other stuff, which he’s not really
     
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    I think Scoot will be fine. He'll at least be an above average player.

    Right now, he's a complete mess on Defense. He gets stranded in no-mans land and misses a lot of rotations. He just doesn't know where to be. That will come in time...

    It really bugs me that he carries the ball almost every single time he dribbles. The refs don't call it, so I guess it's fine for him to do it.

    I do see glimpses of his all-star potential. Don't know if he'll make it to that level (depends largely on his shooting), but it's there
     
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    scoot looks awful to me. I know he has a great attitude and personality but seeing how bad he is at almost everything' he was said be good at is perplexing to say the least. I'm pretty sure if scoot was on any other team a lot of the posters here would not be just saying "im not worried" no matter had bad he plays game after game. the g league is a scam
     
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    He has to do all of that other stuff if he's going to be what he was projected to be and be able to hit an open set three point shot. I think even though he's not doing "all the other stuff" he has all of those tools to do them today and just needs to wrap his head around what's going on around him and how he fits in. I don't think he needs to be able to shoot the pull up three off the dribble and I wish our coaches would tell him that for now that shot is absolutely not OK for him to take. If he has so much room that he can stop the dribble, set himself and then take the shot that's cool, otherwise drive or pass the damn ball for now.

    Scoot has a lot of great things going for him. The game will slow down for him and he'll stay incredibly fast and strong. Maybe things he doesn't have right now will develop but I think he'll be really good if not great just getting a lot more reps and a lot more time with competent (not even great) coaching.
     
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    I’m sticking out there with you hoping he plays better eventually. Yes, he looks like he carries the ball every time. I don’t ever remember seeing it in his GL clips though. I’m not going to lie, I do have this worry about Scoot’s dribbling because it’s kind of like Fultz’s shooting. Like…how did Fultz suddenly not know how to shoot?

    He has too much of a superstar personality and demeanor to not become one imo. Hope I’m not wrong.
     
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    Skills make the player a superstar not their personality. Anyone not worried about scoot is being disingenuous imo. His shot is straight broken, he can't dribble it's looks like he's going to throw the ball away the second he gets it. He can't change pase at all. His finishing at the rim is painful to watch.

    I'm still hoping he turns out to be good but there is definitely stuff to be worried about.

    He has a LONG way to go to be a positive asset to this team.
     
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    My thing with Scoot: He has to learn how to be effective when he's not going 100%. He doesn't know how to effectively change space and get to his spots under control. Everything is "sprint past the defense then try to rush up a shot". He has to become more creative with his pace, finishing and footwork.
     
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    All fine and dandy, that’s why I said “in my opinion”.

    I feel like I always play a game with myself where I look at a prospect and project to see if I see a star. Obviously, there has to be talent for personality/demeanor to matter. But Scoot has that talent to me, so I didn’t feel the need to preface anything I said.

    He’s going to be someone who can really dictate pace when he puts it all together. I’ll need a full offseason of Scoot before I begin to actually worry. If he’s this same player after one offseason, I’ll just accept it was a blunder by Schmitz.
     
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    spending two years in the "g league" was a major red flag, his camp knew what they were doing

    in the "g league" you will see the worst possible bball and pretty much anyone can look like a player there, but in the college he wouldve been exposed so badly

    hoping for the best, but he literally couldnt be any worse (so he either stays this bad or he improves and hopefully improve a lot)
     
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    Everyone keeps saying "he's only 19", but the Blazers have drafted a few high schoolers. Telfair, Outlaw, Webster, and O'Neal. Only 1 of those 4 took a leap a few years into their career, the other 3 didn't really improve substantially and didn't last long in the league. Most of the time the "but he's young" excuse doesn't pan out in the end.
     
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    I’ll say this: It is WAY too early to talk bust, but if you’re not a little concerned I would say you’re absolutely delusional.
     
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    Yeah, I'm not closing the book on Scoot, but indicators are not good.
     
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    He had a bad game vs Dallas no doubt but he's been trending upward since he came back.
     
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