What will it take for Chauncey to get fired?

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  1. 1 Eye Jack

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    How can you fire a guy that has a g league roster and new players every year. I can’t tell if he can coach or not, hell if it’s based on wins and losses the last 3 seasons Pop should also be fired lol.
     
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    Bigger problem was Dame typically played along side very limited forwards; very few could both shoot and dribble/pass. This severly handcuffed the available strategies to combat these aggressive double teams.
     
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    This is not accurate. I'd have to go back and watch the NOP series, but the last GSW series was not even close to being all PnR. By the end, Dame was rarely using any 1/5 on-ball screens.
     
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    I think there is a difference.

    What some of us warned is that making change because something was stale was unlikely to produce better results and could possibly produce worse results. I never felt making a change because some felt being good(ish) was broing made much sense. I think fans typically greatly over-estimate the probabilty of change turning out far better and under-estimate the probabily of it turning out far worse.
     
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    We remember differently. And understand that a dribble handoff is basically a pick and roll. our bigs did them religiously in Terry's offense. Just another way to get our guards trapped.

    Again, he never consistently got Nurk into the high post to run cutters (which is the easy remedy to avoid trapping defenses) to attack the rim. Terry relied on Dame and CJ to do pick and roll, dribble handoff, and 1 on 1 play. We won't even get into his horrible defensive scheme but let's not act like that side of the floor didn't require us to rely on hero ball.

    1000% Terry Stotts fault.
     
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    This is true but we matched up well with GSW defensively. Terry just ran a horrible scheme. We compounded less talent by not being able to adjust to trapping defenses.

    We were whooping GSW's ass in those first halves (in every WCF game), only to faulter in the 2nd half because of Terry's inability to adjust to the half court trap.
     
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    There's video proof that what you said is inaccurate. I remember that last Golden State game where we were running Dame off flare and curl screens off the ball. Here, I just pulled a highlight from the game. Your memory that it was "pick and roll after pick and roll" is wrong. Repeating an incorrect narrative with confidence only makes the other assessments less believable.



    Amazing a team with Dame, CJ and roster that is mostly out of the league could even have a close game against 3 HOF players.
     
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    It's almost as if (bear with me here) Stotts was a decent coach!
     
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    The difference is, we know what Pop can do with good players. When Chauncey had Dame and CJ it was UGLY.
     
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    GS did trap in the 1st half. And who came up with the schemes to get the lead in the first place?

    We matched up well with the Warriors defensively? That might be the worst take of all... I can't recall one analyst saying "Man, Golden St is going to really struggle to score against that tough defensive backcourt of Dame and CJ. And even if they do beat them, Kanter and Meyers are elite rim protectors."
     
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    Yeah, the debate with Stotts is if he was a good coach or a very good coach. Anyone who thought Stotts was garbage based off what he did with a limited roster in Portland was simply exposing their lack of knowledge.
     
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    I'm not sure Hurley's act could last one season with NBA players. Now maybe he could drastically change his approach and it would work, but he's a Hurley, so I doubt it.

    He would be an idiot to go to the NBA anyway.
     
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    He did worse than Stotts with a very similar roster. Offense was worse and defense was as bad or worse.

    He doesn't necessarily need to be fired. I just wanted us to bring in a legit up and coming guy. Going from Stotts to a guy with almost no coaching experience was dumb.
     
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    I assume he was talking about Murray, not Hurley.
     
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    The fact that he got THAT team to the WCF makes him one of the top three coaches Portland has ever had.
     
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    Yes - Murray not Hurley
     
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    Rumor has it that if the Suns don’t perform well in the playoffs Frank Vogel could be canned.
     
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    you can sorta make that argument about anything though, no? it's less of an argument and more of a posture, imo.
     

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