What will it take for Chauncey to get fired?

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  1. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

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    I disagree. There are plenty of changes that are more likely to produce better results than not.
     
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    Dr Jack, Adelman, Stotts... Dunleavy? Does Wilkins factor in?
     
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    It's hilarious how bitter you sound, always talking about other people.
     
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    A post including X's and O's, what a pleasent surprise. The dude ran drop scheme on Steph Curry in a playoff game, which is ridiculous. Some of the easiest 3pt looks he's ever gotten off designed looks in a playoff game.

    But if Chaunceys no better, that means we should've kept Terry forever! Fuck schemes!
     
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    So much of everything I said was in that video. Especially Stotts horrible defensive scheme. You can also tell me you can't analyze Xs and Os without telling me. Those times with Meyers at the top of the key are basically pick and pops. When Dame runs off that screen and receives passes from the wing, that's a pick and roll/pop without dribbling. There was very little off ball action and even if you run dame off a screen and he receives the ball, you're basically in a pick and roll/pop situation....

    There was not one play from the high post. Only from the top of the key. You do know the difference between those spots don't you?
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I wish we ran horrible schemes now like we did when we made it to the WCF……
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    You’re the one who lives in their mom’s basement without a job. How am I bitter?
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Talking about other people is LITERALLY why I am on this site.
     
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    We don't live in mom's basement. You know damn well i provide vehicle transportation service, while offering in-depth NBA theories. Uber Driving ain't easy.
     
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    That's incorrect. You said Portland ran "pick and roll after pick and roll". A PnR is when a player receives a screen while in possession of the ball. Guys receiving a pass after going off a flare screen away from the ball is not the same as a PnR. Your decription of what Dame was doing is not a "roll/pop". Also there was action happening on a lot of plays show in those clips. It should be noted that 5 people moving at all times isn't always a good thing. Sometimes people standing in the proper spaces, waiting for the defense to show their hand, then reacting accordingly is the most dangerous thing.

    In this game Portland ran multiple actions in a 5 out set based on the players they had available. Kanter had already been ineffective so basing their offense by putting him at 15ft in the high post (as you were suggesting) would've been playing into his weaknesses and exactly what Golden St would've been wanting.

    Answer me this: If Portland was running such an awful scheme, from an awful coach, with a roster of players that were mostly out of the league shortly after, why was Portland able to compete with a team filled with 3 HOFers? Because after we stopped running than awful scheme, with that awful coach, things didn't get better, they got worse.

    You can repeat the same narrative about the schemes that the vocal minority has been saying for years, but it is still inaccurate.
     
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    He was talking about the Blazers offense, not defense, so I'm not sure what drop scheme has to do with anything. Also, the poster may have attempted to repeat the X's and O's talking points he'd heard before, but what he said happened, clearly didn't. Not sure how any could prop up someone saying that we just "ran PnR after PnR" against GS, when the actual game footage suggests PnR was not used the majority of the time, let alone the only set we ran all game.
     
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    I run a company that's done a million dollars in brand deals in this calendar year alone. Don't speak on things you dont know, that's foolish.
     
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    We know.
     
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    He brought up defense and I added on.

    Dviss knows ball. He coaches, and comes up with his own opinions.
     
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    I can't speak to if he knows ball. I can speak to him inaccurately saying that in the GSW series we just ran "pick and roll after pick and roll". That simply is not factual.
     
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    Well we ran a ton of PnR under Stotts (in my opinion we were too reliant on it which is why the offense regressed so much in the playoffs) and I can't speak for him but I don't think he meant literally every possession.

    I just don't understand why people are so hung up on Stotts still. Kinda wild to me that people still bring him up. He was here an exceptionally long time for a coach that never won a conference finals game.
     
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    It's a pretty loose argument to make, regardless.

    Anyway, Coach Stotts in year 12 leading the team through a rebuild would have been something, though. All the coaches that go back further than 2019 have rings (Pop, Kerr, Spoelstra, Malone).
     
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    I don't know what "a ton of PnR" means. 10% or 75%? Regardless, I wasn't responding to the teams PnR usage under Stotts tenure, I was responding to a claim we ran "pick and roll after pick and roll" against Golden St when in fact, we did not run PnR the majority of the time. I then provided clips (that I didn't cherry pick) from the game that backed up that was almost zero on-ball Dame PnR actions. So his memory of what happened against Golden St was not accurate, at all, and therefore is not worthy of praise as a strong X's and O's opinion in my eyes.

    You should ask Dviss why he is so hung up on Stotts that he is spreading inaccurate information to make him look worse than he was. I agree with you that it is odd for someone to still being doing that years later. It was bad enough when people were doing it while he was the coach, let alone now.
     
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    Stotts relied on Damian Lillard. We won despite Terry's obvious flaws.
     

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