STELLAR TANKING JOB, JOE!

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    If we're now concluding that the executor's fee would be solely a percentage of the estate valuation, and valuation is based on eventual sale value of the individual assets, then one might reasonably deduce that as much as she might benefit from "slow-walking" the process to increase asset value, the eventual beneficiary charities would benefit 25-30x as much. That would suggest that she's actually doing a great job in her role.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Only Ringo, I guess.

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    I'm not sure where the 25-30X came from, but fine

    I never said JA was immoral or corrupt or venal. Just that she had financial incentive to make the process take more time than it could
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    If she collects 3-4% on the sale, then the estate retains the other 96-97%... thus benefiting 25-30x more than she does from asset appreciation.
     
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    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    understood...thanks.

    sure; eventually, sooner or later, the charities will get theirs...providing the Vale Group doesn't invest it all in Enron
     
  6. Wizard Mentor

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  7. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Any success we have will be despite Cronin's presence. But no, after lying to Dame, and trading away the entire team, I would not change my mind about him. He's trash.
     
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    Large estates haven't prevented other franchises from selling in a MUCH MORE timely manner. M&As of much larger size happen all the time.
     
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    Whyachi Well-Known Member

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    Cronin got 2 votes for 2nd place Executive of the year. Each GM gets 1 vote (can't vote for yourself)

    Boston said thanks for trading us All-Star Jrue Holiday for spare parts, and the Knicks said we love Josh Hart.
     
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    Just to be clear, I didn’t post that because I agreed with its statement, but rather just to point out that the league isn’t putting any pressure on Jodi’s slow roll in handling the disposition of the estate.
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    before the season started... did anyone peg rookie Camara, and sophmore Walker, playing more minutes then Anfernee Simons ??

    mp:
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    Jabari 1700
    Ant 1582

    *bonus rookies
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    Reath 1214

    stealth tanking 101:
    - make garbage time fun for everyone
     
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    Tanks are heavy. You can't expect veterans to carry all that luggage!
     
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    Whyachi Well-Known Member

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    I figured next season out.

    Play starters home games only. Bench them all for the new rookies & Remix on road trips.

    "I'll tell you what, some of these guys caught a cold, {cough cough}, they shouldn't even board an airplane."

    A few tylenol, some soup, a few toradol & a couple days rest later....

    "this new Blazer team is red hot and rolling! Let's go buy some tickets!"
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Now I get the rebuilding/tank process and am all for it.

    But certainly feels like all the losing last season was a waste.
     
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    Nah, we have a #7 pick. There will almost certainly be a future All Star available. We need to do that 2 or 3 more times, and we need to pick the best player available.

    We need to get rid if our vets so we don't have to blatantly tank, though.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Yeah agreed with getting rid of vets, send out all of them that we can get a pick for (Brogdon Grant) I'd explorer trading Ayton and Simons too. Get some vets to help the locker room but not guys that have value elsewhere as rotational players.

    Then try 100% to win with all our young guys and any vets left. We probably end up with one of the 3 worst records in the league anyways. But none of this sitting guys with insignificant injuries or starting g league scrubs that don't belong in the league.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Definitely need to send out Simons for the best first rounder we can get. 100%. That's his best value to us. We aren't going to be able to trade him for another player we'll need, IMO.

    Best bet is trading him for a pick and turning that into the player we need.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I think you explore trading Simons - but I wouldn't say we need to send him for the best X thing we can get. If we get more value than he would have here or likely in a trade later yes send him out. If not then keep him. I'd hate to send him out for a mediocre return now then see him flipped for much more just a few months into the season.

    We should explore trading all of Brogdon, Grant, Simons, Ayton. Sure also explore Timelord and Thybulle trades too (I would think those last two have negative value though and are stuck here). No we shouldn't hold out for overvaluations of our players as Masai Ujiri or Daryl Morey often do. But we shouldn't just dump any of those first 4 for poor value either. Any one of those first four might not get enough in a trade return to warrant sending out this summer, that is fine. But I'd expect 2 or 3 of them are worth good value at some point this summer - and the Blazers should jump on those opportunities once any are available.
     

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