Plausible destinations for our vets?

just someone trying to act like they’re smarter than everyone.
Nobody has a crystal ball or knows scoot and his work ethic

 

This is a huge mistake. Simons is not our future PG. At least, not if we want to build a contender.

 

Teams have probably low balled us for Simons, obviously there hasn't been a pack that Joes likes so far, or he's incompetent? Not sure it would be a mistake to wait, as the team is in tank mode and offers would more than likely improve? What exactly is the mistake? his value goes down?

 

Ant knows he has to play well for other teams to give up value for him. And those teams who will give up value won't be rebuilding teams. He wants to win, play well

 

The mistake would be keeping Simons until Scoot proves he's our PG of the future or takes the spot from Simons.

If Scoot doesn't prove he's the PG of the future that doesn't mean Simons is.

Need to move Simons for the best draft capital possible as soon as possible.

Simons value isn't likely to improve beyond this season. In fact, we may already be seeing diminishing returns as the rest of the league becomes more familiar with him.

 

Yes, Blazer fans are so much smarter than the GMs around the league. We need to get rid of Ant before others catch on.

 

Agree neither could be pg of future, I think Ants value will increase even if he comes off the bench.
Im just an old roundball nut, what do I know.
I do feel if we end up with Flagg we need to have solid shooters/players around him. My hope is unless someone knocks our socks off with a good trade Ant comes off the bench.

 

What does that even mean? Getting him into a different situation could change things for him. Other teams may not need him to play defense. Ant has valuable skills that would help some winning teams.

Once again. The mistake would be keeping him as insurance. You're only keeping him as insurance if you see him as a valuable piece moving forward. And he's not a lead guard for a winning team. But he's good enough to take valuable minutes with the ball that another player could use to develop faster.

So keeping him as insurance makes no sense.

He's far more valuable to us as a trade chip who can bring in more draft opportunities.

 

I don't see Ant coming off the bench, and I don't see how his value improves in his 7th season even if he's starting, let alone coming off the bench. People know what he is.

I could see a GM hoping a different situation gives him a bump, but that's about it. He's not going to transform his defense or be less of an ISO player after 6 seasons in the NBA.

 

I agree, he does have skills that can help a winning team. He just turned 25 and has yet to enter his prime, so why not keep players who are young enough to help us win in the future? The league already knows what Ant can and can not do. His value will not diminish because the rest of the league becomes more familiar with him.

Trading him for someone worse (for matching salary purposes) just so we can get a future non-lottery pick, is not worth the daily posts on the subject. It won't get us a star.

Labeling him as an ISO player because he is one of the few players on this team who can create his own shot is what makes no sense to me, nor does tanking for multiple years after this next one. At some point, you will have lost most of the fan base.

 

I think another year after this one could be enough for tanking, if we get good draft picks out of Grant and Ant.

If Ant and/or Grant is on this team playing big minutes the ball will not move. The offense will not flow the way it needs to.

Ant will not likely help this team develop into a winner. He will more likely prevent that development by being the wrong kind of player for this team at the wrong time.

I haven't posted about Ant in well over a week. Maybe two. That doesn't change the fact that he kills the offensive flow and flat out kills any chance of us playing good defense.

The fan base is already gone. They left with Dame. They'll come back when we're in the path to championships.

 

If that were the case, then that is a coaching problem, not a player's problem.

 

We're not going to get a good coach until we have a great young team.

We're not going to have a great young team if 2 of the top players are Ant and Grant.

Is the solution just changing coaches every season until we luck into a good one so that we can hang on to two flawed players with significant problems in rebounding and defense?

I think that's a great way to suck for a very long.

*Edit* And what is the coach going to do? Bench Ant and Grant while playing less capable players ahead of them?

That ought to tank their value pretty good...

The smart thing to do is get the best value possible this season for both Ant and Grant. The sooner the better.

 

You keep grouping them together. Grant and Ant are two different scenarios. 5 years is not a huge difference but in this case, it makes sense to trade Grant's contract.

I don't think Ant is thee top player on the team, he is just one of the good young players 26 and under (Ayton turned 26 yesterday) that I would keep unless a good deal came along. That can be said about all of them.

I also was not advocating to fire Chauncey. I was just saying if the ball movement really was an issue then it is his responsibility to fix it. But I also think the more quality players you have on the court the better shot distribution will be. We saw that with Dame as well. When he was surrounded by Aminu, Harkless, and Plumlee, he needed to shoot.....a lot!

 

I think if Ant is still here? He will/can play off the ball more as we also have Deny. Imo, the way the game is reliant on the three, you can never have too many gun slingers, just ask Dallas & Boston.

 

None of our players will be top 3 at their position within the next five years, so should we just get rid of everyone?

 

YES! Simple answer. I think our best hope might be Sharpe, but he’s got to play for this to have a chance at happening within the next five years. But I said that I don’t think Scoot will ever crack the top ten point guards. In five years Clingan might be a top ten center.

 

LOL

 

Needing to move Simmons for the best draft capital around is dumb as hell. You keep pushing this narrative over and over and repeating yourself over and over lol.

 

Preach bro, these guys are big time Ant haters and try to push a narrative on this board. Basically him and one other guy lol