Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. riverman

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    They have more nukes than any country on earth besides us...I wouldn't see them as extremely weak considering their arsenal. We have fewer than they have. Correction...we have more warheads than they do by a few hundred. I think they have more ICBMs than we do..have to double check.
     
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  2. Kano John

    Kano John Start 'em young!

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    How many does it take for total annihilation?
     
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    probably all of them...the US and Russia each have over 500o of them
     
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  5. Everything Beagle

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    Nuclear war is a different game than conventional troop and vehicle war though. You can have all the nukes but if your troops are starving you’ve lost your ability to make any bets other than “all in”. That’s what I meant by weakness; they have a lot less flexibility.
     
  6. Phatguysrule

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    We can make a single hydrogen bomb that would destroy the whole world. In fact, Edward Teller was in the process of doing just that before it was shut down.

    The idea was that if anybody pushed us too far we would always be able to just push the button of the big bomb we have in Nevada (there would be no need for delivery system) and the whole world would go up. We could just take our ball and go home.

    There is nothing technically stopping us from doing this. A fusion bomb can be made as big as you want it to be made, as powerful as you want it to be made. We have all we need to do it.
     
  7. Kano John

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    I guess that was the point of my question. Who cares if Russia has more N bombs than we do - there are more than enough on both sides to destroy the world - even without an H bomb.
     
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    Yep. The US isn't going to need nukes. The EU is not going to need nukes.

    But Russia has enough nukes to fuck everything up. Assuming they actually still work...
     
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    Is it too late and too little? Not sure. russia has had time to move a lot of stuff out of range, especially where they station bombers, but Ukraine should still find a lot of targets.
    But there are apparently some kind of limits. Hopefully that is just something like: Don't hit the Kremlin. I think that once all the promised military supplies have been delivered, that Ukraine may ignore any limits.
    As for the amounts, I'm concerned. russia attacked Ukraine yesterday with over 100 missiles. That's in one day. I suspect that the total amount of ATACMs, Scalps and Storm Shadows in Ukraine's inventory right now may be less than 100. If Trump won't deliver more, that will be a problem as Britain and France have very limited inventories of their missiles.
    But there are reports coming from the russian general staff that are pessimistic:
    @igorsushko
    [​IMG] Vladimir Osechkin's sources close to Russia's General Staff sent their reactions over the past 2 hours.
    The common word being used: Пиздец
    Basically, "Russia is fucked."
     
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    Waking up too late Cenk, just like the rest of the world may soon do.

    It's Ironic that he thinks the left is against this. The left (you guys) are cheering this on.
     
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    Ballet star Vladimir Shklyarov who criticised Putin’s Ukraine invasion dies in fall from building in St Petersburg
     
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    So you're fine with Russia launching missiles at civilian targets but against Ukraine launching missiles at military targets? What about the escalation of Russia bringing in troops from other countries?
     
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  17. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Which is why we need to keep the pressure on this asshole. Unfortunately, Comrade Trump will arrive just in time to let him up off the mat........
     
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    A ballet dancer dies from a fall? Do they even try to make it look credible?
     
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  19. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Simply a jete gone bad........interestingly enough, "jete" means "thrown"............
     
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    Are you fine with Russia wiping out Kiev? Are you fine with Russia dropping a nuke on Portland?

    Lord help us if Ukraine follows through with using those missiles. Ukraine made their own bed with Russia, let's not make life on earth extinct.

    Russia has already said they consider an precision missile into Russia an act of open war and issued a nuclear threat. I thought Biden had come to his senses in September when he pulled back on this, now who knows what they are thinking.

    They're gambling everything on the idea that Russia is bluffing. It's total insanity.
     

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