So far I'm content with him as a coach, so don?t think I want him gone or anything. We are doing much better than last year and you could never go wrong with that. However, is it me or is he too laid back for his/team own good? I mentioned in a thread over on the Mavs forum on how the Mavs has taken the personality of their coach Avery Johnson which is a very feisty and physical attitude. And when I look at this ball club, they have certainly taken their coach personality. The Heat game was very evident that the Sixers on defense especially are very laid back. Unless if it's a run and the home crowd is getting them going for the most part they play a very cool and casual game, in other words they are soft. AI is the only guy that consistently attacks the rim. The only attempt of aggressiveness that I've really seen is Korver getting closer to the rim by now taking mid-range shots. But again, other than AI, nobody is really aggressive. He is the only warrior out there on the court. Like I mentioned, unless if it?s a run that we are in guys like C-Webb will never attack the rim, Iguodala won't look to posterize anybody and Korver won't fight off the defense to get open looks. Last year, this team was much more aggressive and that aspect of the game usually falls on the coaches? shoulder. At the end of the day I really like Cheeks, but a huge part in me really misses Jim O'Brien fierce, disciplinary attitude he had on the players. Mo laid back approach would be completely fine with a seasoned team filled with veterans and know what to do night in and night out, but with some many young guys that are key players someone needs to yell at them and get them to play the right way. Tony Parker is only a 5 year NBA ?veteran? I believe, but all that screaming he?s heard from Pop helped him out tremendously. Look where he is today, the guy is bound to make the All-Star team. There aren?t many players in this league that has the same experience as Parker but yet plays so poised like him.
although i do agree that the sixers should be playing much better ball then they have, and yes, they dont look that aggressive out there, i still think mo cheeks is a good fit for the team. i mean, if he isnt the right fit, who else do you want? who else is avalible that will help or "fit" this team? JOB?? this whole entire city pretty much wanted him gone. is he is disciplinarian, but you have to remember that the whole team pretty much hated him, and the offensive he ran didnt suit the team too well, especially cwebb. the answer is nobody. mo is already doing a great job letting the AI and C Webb duo turn into what we expected from last season. i think that they will get better agressively and defensively later on in the season. we recently signed moses malone as a special rebounding coach. it has only been about a week, so as the season goes on, they should improve more. we shouldnt be looking for a new coach. what we should look for is a "special defensive coach" that will help this team be less soft. with the agressiveness, i do think that mo needs to get into the players heads because they are playing soft, but then again, they recently signed moses malone, and he isnt known for his softness. maybe the sixers could turn him into an assistant coach (if he already isnt) and let him sit on the bench and get into their heads if mo isnt.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">still think mo cheeks is a good fit for the team. i mean, if he isnt the right fit, who else do you want? who else is avalible that will help or "fit" this team? JOB??</div> Actually, I wouldn't mind Rick Carlise at all, but like I said I'm content with Mo Cheeks as coach the only problem(big problem), in my eyes is that he is too laid back. That laid back approach has most def. rub on the players(except AI) and I'm not liking it. Honestly if O'Brien wouldn't make soo much stupid decisions as far as the rotation goes and was a little less stubborn in addition to accommodating Webber and AI togehter, I don't think there where would be a need for a coaching change. But hey, all those are just a bunch of "if's" and you can only take is so far, if those weren't if's he probably would still be the coach for the Celtics.
I'm content with Mo, because right now the 76ers are doing okay. I haven't made much of any kind of judgement on him yet, because at this point the season is still fairly young. Keep in mind that this team is still fairly new. New coach, new system so time is everything. The 76ers need more time to gel. I'm not sure if Mo is the right coach for this team, but I think he is doing a better job than Jim O'Brien was. Although OB did disicipline the young players some, he also stunted the growth of certain players as well, the best example would be Sam Dalembert. Some nights Sam played big minutes, other nights he didn't even get off the bench. Sam's defense also took a hit and he wasn't as big of a shot blocker as he had been before. Another vitcim would be Willie Green, whenever Allen was hurt Green was there to provide a solid 15 to 20 points a game, but when AI was fine Green hardly ever get off the bench. So far, with Mo Cheeks as the head coach the 76ers haven't really had those kind of messes with younger players. I'm not sure if Cheeks is the right man for the job, but I know he is at least better than JO. It will take the rest of the season to make a fair assesment of how Mo impacted this team.
well, every coach has his strengths and weaknesses. JOB was good at being a disciplinarian but his offensive style, which asks for his players to shot the long range shots, didnt fair too well with many guys. c-webb being one of them. mo is a laid back and a very likable coach, but he lacks the "disciplinarian" skills that obie has. i guess if you wanted a perfect coach, the only ones that come into my mind that are still coaching, are phil, larry, and pop. btw, i thought rick carlise was the pacer's coach??
I personally like Mo Cheeks laid back personality. Now bare with me, but what caused Jim O’Brien to fall out of favor in Philadelphia was his inability to relate to players, especially amidst controversy. That is the area where Cheeks has a advantage over 80% of the coaches in the league right now. When his team faces controversy they do not turn on him. He establishes a loyalty with his players that causes a shared trust. Just the simple fact that he can relate to his players allows him to get the best out of every player who chooses to listen to him. I think Cheeks coaching style is the type of coaching style we need in Philadelphia. The calm, cool, and relaxed coaching he does during a game gives his players the confidence they have. The most notable benefactor of Cheeks coaching has obviously been John Salmons because of Cheeks he is having a career year so far this season. In a recent interview he complemented Cheeks on the way he coaches, and the composer he has noting that as the main reason he has gained so much confidence in his game. So when it comes down to it I would much rather have a teacher like Maurice Cheeks who can relate to the players, and build their confidence as not only basketball players, but people. Than a guy who works his players to the bone, and does not consider a player coach relationship part of his job. Despite the fact he is laid back he still manages to keep his players respect. If he was being laid back and the players where taking advantage of him then I would think other wise of him, but until then I think Cheeks is the perfect coach for this team. Oh also, for the record as this team is currently constructed I would not trade him for any other coach in the league.
The key word in this thread is content. This is tough for me becuase I like Mo a lot, but at the same time, he wouldn't have been my 1st choice as coach. I wanted a more defensive minded coach. IMO, the jury's still out on him. Larry Brown is already getting the sorry-@ss Knicks to play well. I wanna see Mo do the same with this squad. Some adjustments need to be made in obvious areas and can be done w/out a trade.
The only coach out on the market that was better than Mo (and we had a realistic shot of getting) was Paul Silas, in my opinion. Either way, Mo isn't going anywhere. He's the fourth coach in the past three years that Billy has hired. If anybody needs to go, it is Billy King, not Mo.
I think if Phili can somehow step up their defense they could be a top 4 team in the East. If Phili slows the game down and plays good D, their team is fairly good looking with Korver and Webber capable of spreading the floor, Iverson can get to the basket on command, and Dalembert can't be left wide open down low. It seems that a combination of JOB's defense and Mo's personality would be perfect for the 76ers.
That's the funny thing, that JOB had no defense, and we're still a worse defensive team under Mo! Its more of the players than it is the coach... the coach can only teach so much, but it's up to the players to go out there and execute.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BigMo763:</div><div class="quote_post">That's the funny thing, that JOB had no defense, and we're still a worse defensive team under Mo! Its more of the players than it is the coach... the coach can only teach so much, but it's up to the players to go out there and execute.</div> lol my bad, I thought JOB was a defensive minded coach. Well I still think a defensive minded coach could really help the sixers, their offense will come along and be strong as long as they have Iverson, Webber, Korver and Iggy.
An ideal coach would be either Rick Carlise, Byron Scott or Avery Johnson. But like I said I like Mo right now, but we had chances at Rick in the past as well as Byron but we never pursuied them I think we really should have. The thing that gets me so pissed off with Mo is his laid back approach. He needs to get into those guys faces and shape them up, toughen them up. Give them a swagger and make them go into every game as if they have a chance of winning. If anybody seen the 2nd game of the season against the Pistons you could just tell that the Sixers came into that game ready to lose. Another example is was the Heat game that was on ESPN. They didn't really start playing when they realized that they put themselves in a position to get blown out but found themselves within reach so they gave it a try to come back.
I agree Avery, but I also think Allen and Chris need to take that upon themselves to get in their teammates' faces and get them right, similar to what Jordan and Pippen did back in their day. Unfortunately, if either of them did that (just because it's them), it will all be blown out of proportion and you'll be reading articles regarding team chemistry again...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post">An ideal coach would be either Rick Carlise, Byron Scott or Avery Johnson. But like I said I like Mo right now, but we had chances at Rick in the past as well as Byron but we never pursuied them I think we really should have. The thing that gets me so pissed off with Mo is his laid back approach. He needs to get into those guys faces and shape them up, toughen them up. Give them a swagger and make them go into every game as if they have a chance of winning. If anybody seen the 2nd game of the season against the Pistons you could just tell that the Sixers came into that game ready to lose. Another example is was the Heat game that was on ESPN. They didn't really start playing when they realized that they put themselves in a position to get blown out but found themselves within reach so they gave it a try to come back.</div> I don?t know if those guys would be ideal for our team even though they do preach defense. All of those guys, except Avery Johnson, have had rumors swirl in the past that their teams quit on them. Rick had a ton of rumors swirling around him when he left Detroit that he could not communicate with players, and/or front office personnel. Then a few weeks ago there was the thing with Artest saying he could not play for Rick. Sounds like JO version 2.0 to me. Though he has enjoyed more success in the league they have the same demeanor when it comes to coaching. I don?t think this roster as currently assembled would respond well to him. Then with Scott there were rumors that his team quit on him in New Jersey the same season after losing top assistant, Eddie Jordan, rumor was he could not communicate with his team. Even though he has some what redeemed himself in New Orleans and proved to be a good coach he has had problems dealing with superstars in players like Kenyon martin, Jason Kidd, and Baron Davis. If he could not deal with those guys I don?t know how he would handle Iverson. I guess what I am trying to say is that though the team is struggling right now I don?t think it is due to coaching. I also don?t think any other coach in the league could do a better job with this team right now outside of the legends (Jackson, Riley, and Brown). Cheeks is probably the only coach we have had in Philadelphia post Brown era that Iverson gets along with and the whole roster likes. He needs to bring in some better defensive minded players. It is more the personnel then the coaching right now.
If we're gonna lose like we did tonight allowing 58.0 fg% from Utah, I'd rather see Iverson go off and try to score 60 every night. At least that way it'll be more entertaining to watch.
I don't think Mo Cheeks is doing a bad coaching job, but I think what the problem is that Mo is a better coach when he has more veterans to work with. How many seasoned players are on this team? The only players that have real good, long, expeirence in the league are AI, and Webber. Nailion has been aorund but he has went from team to team to team. Although the 76ers aren't that bad and have talent, it would be kind of a lot to ask from Cheeks to make this team a title contender.
I saw some comparisons of Mo and JOB and i just wanted to say that personally I HATED JOB during his stay in Philly and my main reason for that was his inability to adjust to things actually i dont think he couldnt it was almost like he refused and I will never be able to get out of my head his press confrence after one of the Playoff games against detroit when asked about the outside shooting that was killing us and he said we rather them taking those shots so we will continue to give 'em to them and if they make them they make them Cheeks i personally feel does a good job at in game adjustments I think he doesnt use his timeouts to his advantage at time but besides getting Brown back i dont see anyone out there that would be better right now then Cheeks
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">I don?t know if those guys would be ideal for our team even though they do preach defense. All of those guys, except Avery Johnson, have had rumors swirl in the past that their teams quit on them. Rick had a ton of rumors swirling around him when he left Detroit that he could not communicate with players, and/or front office personnel. Then a few weeks ago there was the thing with Artest saying he could not play for Rick. Sounds like JO version 2.0 to me. Though he has enjoyed more success in the league they have the same demeanor when it comes to coaching. I don?t think this roster as currently assembled would respond well to him. Then with Scott there were rumors that his team quit on him in New Jersey the same season after losing top assistant, Eddie Jordan, rumor was he could not communicate with his team. Even though he has some what redeemed himself in New Orleans and proved to be a good coach he has had problems dealing with superstars in players like Kenyon martin, Jason Kidd, and Baron Davis. If he could not deal with those guys I don?t know how he would handle Iverson. I guess what I am trying to say is that though the team is struggling right now I don?t think it is due to coaching. I also don?t think any other coach in the league could do a better job with this team right now outside of the legends (Jackson, Riley, and Brown). Cheeks is probably the only coach we have had in Philadelphia post Brown era that Iverson gets along with and the whole roster likes. He needs to bring in some better defensive minded players. It is more the personnel then the coaching right now.</div> Great post We need to bring in a lot of big bodies that can defend and rebound. Anyone remember Matt Geiger, Tyrone Hill? Those kind of guys are the guys we need to bring in.
