LeBron Booed at Home in Loss

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  1. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">CLEVELAND (AP) -- Gilbert Arenas has had nights like the one LeBron James had against Washington.

    Arenas scored 26 points, and the Wizards shut down James in the second half in a 102-94 win over the Cleveland Cavaliers on Friday night.

    "We tried to pressure the ball, take him a little out of his game, and see if things might happen," Arenas said. "It's a real good win for us."

    James finished with 25 points, but went 0-for-8 from the field and 4-for-12 from the foul line in the second half as Cleveland dropped its second straight after winning three in a row.

    "I put all the blame on myself," said James, who came in averaging 35.8 points on 52 percent shooting over his previous five games. "It was a bad performance by me, simple as that."

    James missed his final seven from the line -- and was even booed in the final minutes. After missing a shot from the wing with 5 seconds left, he angrily ripped off his headband, threw it into the crowd and walked off the court.

    James said he "of course" heard the boos, adding, "If these fans want to boo me, it's on them."

    Arenas said he's had tough nights, too.

    "I had one of those in Orlando when I missed eight straight," Arenas said. "It's harder at home."

    Antawn Jamison scored 25 points and Caron Butler added 24 as Washington snapped a four-game road losing streak. The Wizards have won 15 of their last 21 overall.

    It was their second win over Cleveland this month. Arenas outscored James 32-18 in a 12-point win in Washington on Feb. 10.

    James had more than shooting troubles. Early in the fourth quarter, he was fouled on a clear break to the basket, then inadvertently poked in the eye by referee Phil Robinson as he leaned in to hear the call. James didn't come out and did not seem to have any ill effects.

    "Me staying out there as much as I was didn't excuse me missing all those shots and free throws," he said. "It was one of those nights."</div>

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Source</div>


    how do you boo a Lebron James?!?!?!????! The guy is everything to this team, he has one off night and he gets booed??? The Cleveland fans responsible need to shake themselves silly...you dont boo Lebron for something like that..especially when they'll have to do absolutely everything just to keep him in town!
     
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    LeBron is the anti-clutch. Even at the ASG, LeBron missed some crucial FT's near the end. He's something like 2-19 in game winning situations, compared to Carmello's 10-14 in game winning situations. The ball should fall in someone elses hands when the game is on the line, management can be blamed for that.

    Even though that may be the case, he shouldn't get booed. The team is better with LeBron than without LeBron. The fans should realise this and get of his case.

    Maybe he isn't the type of player that he's made out to be, the unselfish all rounder. Perhaps he's just another G/F that needs the ball is his hands alot, just like AI, Kobe and T-Mac. He should play his natural game, not the game that people want him to play.
     
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    The most dumb part is lebron hasn't even agreed to resign yet. Cleveland sports fans are screwed if they boo lebron out of town.
     
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    Pretty retarded of the fans to boo him. I hate fair-weather fans like that. This game is just more proof of how un-clutch Lebron is.
     
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    I was looking at your sig and thought to myself that VC is the whole damned show in New Jersey too. You New Jersey fans are pretty lucky.
     
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    Tough LeBron, but he definitely need to use this. If he works hard, and works to improve and demands the ball in the clutch then pretty soon he'll be alright.

    Look at Kobe, this is almost exactly what happened to him early in his career. Now he is one the of the best clutch players in the league.

    I think this is where playing in college comes to hand. When you play in the NCAA you have to learn how to make big plays.
     
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    I think its incredulous how Lebron seems so intimidated and unwilling to perform in clutch situations...he's becoming like Garnett in that way, in that they're more than capable of getting you to the finish line, but it'll have to be someone else who crosses it...
     
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    People put wayyyy too much weight on that little blurb that they put on TV about his performance in the clutch

    You do realize he leads the LEAGUE in field goal percentage in the final few minutes of the game, right..?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting tradebark:</div><div class="quote_post">People put wayyyy too much weight on that little blurb that they put on TV about his performance in the clutch

    You do realize he leads the LEAGUE in field goal percentage in the final few minutes of the game, right..?</div>

    He has a pretty high FG% anyway. It's not about getting near, its about finishing the game off by putting the final stamp on it. He hasn't managed to do that on several occasions.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting tradebark:</div><div class="quote_post">
    You do realize he leads the LEAGUE in field goal percentage in the final few minutes of the game, right..?</div>
    That is one thing, but a numerous amount of times this season LeBron has failed to make plays for his team when they need him to at the end. He has missed crucial FT's, and given up the ball to less skilled players when he should be shooting himself.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_fan:</div><div class="quote_post">He has a pretty high FG% anyway. It's not about getting near, its about finishing the game off by putting the final stamp on it. He hasn't managed to do that on several occasions.</div>

    Gimme a break. So it's ok to shoot under 40% in the last 5 minutes of close game like Kobe, as long as he hits some game winners every one in a while? Maybe if he shot 54% in those situations like LeBRon, the team wouldn't be in as many situations where a game winner is needed to win the game.

    BTW, this guy has apparently gone through Kobe's Play-by-plays over a 7 year period and has discovered that he's missed around 40 potential game winning shots in the closing seconds of games. From another board, Kobe apparently has 23 official game winning shots in his career. Considering that he may very well have around 50 "clutch misses" over his entire career, that would put his percentage at less than 30%. It's not a particularly meaningful stat when you consider that many of the shots he attempted were probably of a very high difficulty and more "desperation heaves."

    That's the kind of pressure players of Kobe's and LeBron's stature have to deal with at the end of games. We simply can't make too much of their percentages on those specific end of game plays. They just aren't an accurate measure of how good a player really is. And at least with Kobe, he had other good players on his teams (during championship years) that could relieve some pressure on him in those situations. LeBron is basically on his own in having to create something for himself off the dribble.
     
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    The fact is Kobe is confortable having the ball in the ending seconds of the game, even when he was a rookie... As for LeBron its easy to tell he would rather not have to take that last shot..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">Gimme a break. So it's ok to shoot under 40% in the last 5 minutes of close game like Kobe, as long as he hits some game winners every one in a while? Maybe if he shot 54% in those situations like LeBRon, the team wouldn't be in as many situations where a game winner is needed to win the game.</div>

    On a side not Phil Jackson once told media that Kobe used to rig games when he was in high school, giving half effort until the final few minutes so that he could dominate the game and win it. We all know that he did it with Shaq, I wouldn't be surprised if he still does it out of habit.

    As far as Lebron goes he deserved to be booed. How can you miss 7 free throws in a row? Basketball is all about adjustment. Lebron is not any better of a man than any other player, anyone who puts up a poor performance deserves.

    Ask Ray Allen about how we treat the Sonics here in Seattle when they don't play hard. To quote Kerr in NBA Live "The Boo birds come out".
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">On a side not Phil Jackson once told media that Kobe used to rig games when he was in high school, giving half effort until the final few minutes so that he could dominate the game and win it. We all know that he did it with Shaq, I wouldn't be surprised if he still does it out of habit.</div>

    I don't know if that's true or not, but I'd be very surprised if he did that as an NBA player. I think he's matured past that stage.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">As far as Lebron goes he deserved to be booed. How can you miss 7 free throws in a row? Basketball is all about adjustment. Lebron is not any better of a man than any other player, anyone who puts up a poor performance deserves.</div>

    I don't think fans should boo a player, unless they are clearly dogging it and not putting up an appropriate effort. Or if they're continuously making bad decisions (taking bad shots, dribbling out the shot clock, etc.). But if a player is just missing shots -- sometimes that just happens and can't be helped. Beyond being unfair for the Cleveland fans to boo LeBron for that, it's also incredibly stupid.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">On a side not Phil Jackson once told media that Kobe used to rig games when he was in high school, giving half effort until the final few minutes so that he could dominate the game and win it. We all know that he did it with Shaq, I wouldn't be surprised if he still does it out of habit.</div>

    Can you provide a link for this? I severly doubt it and if Kobe did have the ability to do this in the NBA, he would be the most dominant player of all time and I think the Lakers record would be alot better than it is. How would Phil know what Kobe did in High School anyway?
     
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    Lebron's "sorta" clutch, i remember last year his pass to Zydrunas Illgaustas who hit the overtime forcing three pointer with seconds left, after Phoenix was up by 25 and Bron took over.fact is he sucks tho, only good at dunks, and pretending to be jordan.
     
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    <u>Very disrespectful </u>to boo him like that. Oh well, hopefully he leaves and wants to become a Bulls. haha j/j, but that would be cool
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_fan:</div><div class="quote_post">Can you provide a link for this? I severly doubt it and if Kobe did have the ability to do this in the NBA, he would be the most dominant player of all time and I think the Lakers record would be alot better than it is. How would Phil know what Kobe did in High School anyway?</div>

    I don't have a link, but Phil wrote about it in "The Last Season", the book that was published after he was fired by the Lakers. I think that Phil heard about Kobe doing it from one of his old coaches or something.

    He wrote about an instance where he discussed Kobe's high school days with a member of the media, assuming that it was off the record because they had just finished an interview. Of course it got published. He then went on to talk about how he had an argument with Kobe one time and Kobe said something like "You can't even talk.....you said that I sabotaged games".

    Of course we don't know if this is true. This is a book that every Laker fan (especially Kobe fans) should read.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't have a link, but Phil wrote about it in "The Last Season", the book that was published after he was fired by the Lakers. I think that Phil heard about Kobe doing it from one of his old coaches or something.

    He wrote about an instance where he discussed Kobe's high school days with a member of the media, assuming that it was off the record because they had just finished an interview. Of course it got published. He then went on to talk about how he had an argument with Kobe one time and Kobe said something like "You can't even talk.....you said that I sabotaged games".

    Of course we don't know if this is true. This is a book that every Laker fan (especially Kobe fans) should read.</div>

    I personally believe that this is one that all Laker/Kobe fans should stay away from. It's written at a time when he had bad feelings and alot of those things were said just to sell copies. Controversy is a great way of marketing.
     

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