<div class="quote_poster">Quoting holyace2k2:</div><div class="quote_post">haha well i'm not a huge raps fan, i like jameer nelson a lot, and dwight howard is pretty cool too, so they would make a nice core. i would rather he go to chicago of course...all in all raptors have a cool logo and mascot, how do u not like a raptor?</div> so basically, you have no good reason as to why he should go to a team other then the raps lol. raps have a great young core. marquis would get lots of clock and touches playing here...if we got a hold of a pg that can push the ball, we could have a nice, phoenix-esque lookin line-up: pg: tj ford (just an example) sg: marquis daniels sf: mo pete pf: charlie V C : cb4 ^^one serious fast break team. we'd run people out of the gym
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BlueBayou87:</div><div class="quote_post">He did shoot over 50% from the feild and 44% from the 3pt line...Chris Bosh gets the ball when plays are run for him, and no one else scored consistently otherwise, except for James. He also lead the leage in assists, so... did he pass the most? Make the most effective passes? Mike should get his money, who else are we gonna sign? We already know Mike works good with Chris so why not continue with it and add what we can from the draft and whatever trades lay ahead, Nesterovic was a good addition.</div> Who led the league in assists??? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Mike James, unless by lled the league in assists you mean led the league in assists for NOT GETTING THE BALL TO YOUR BEST PLAYER AT CRUNCH TIME AND JACKING HORRIBLE SHOTS. James thought me first Bosh second and it should be the other way around...Bosh had to feed off of James instead of vice versa. And it's pretty easy to score consistantly when you have the ball in your hands all the time. If you said he was the only Rap that could take his man off the dribble and break him down...you'd be right. But I don't see him in working out here anymore, in the interests of both sides I think he'll be better off somewhere else and the Raps will be better off without him. Besides he wants a long term deal that would stunt the growth of Ukic (when he comes over) and Calderon. That and I absolutely HATE how players get paid out after one big year. Let them prove they are the real deal again for a year and then talk about getting shown the money
I would love it if we could get Marquis but I don't see the Mavs giving him up. He's a pretty versatile player coming off the bench for them.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BlueBayou87:</div><div class="quote_post">Typo, Mike James lead the Raptors in assists...</div> Well, when you handle the ball so much and stay on the court for so long, you're bound to get 5 or 6 assists. Stephon Marbury leads his team in assists every season but he's still knocked on as a hog. Kobe Bryant averages 6 per game but he's still a hog. The fact is that a lot of assists can make you look good, but they don't really tell how you play exactly, with Nash and Kidd exceptions.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">so basically, you have no good reason as to why he should go to a team other then the raps lol. raps have a great young core. marquis would get lots of clock and touches playing here...if we got a hold of a pg that can push the ball, we could have a nice, phoenix-esque lookin line-up: pg: tj ford (just an example) sg: marquis daniels sf: mo pete pf: charlie V C : cb4 ^^one serious fast break team. we'd run people out of the gym</div> I like that lineup except for the Raptors players involved, just kidding. Bosh is a stud. Peterson and Charlie I don't like that much, I don't mind Peterson, but trade Nova for another athletic forward. Although I'm happy he did really well his rookie yr and proved all his critics wrong. Then that lineup would be cool. This would be a cool lineup: PG Jamal Crawford (Knicks are stacked at guard, so the raps trade for him) SG Marquis Daniels SF Darius Miles (nobody wants this guy) or sign Tim Thomas PF The Italian Dirk (draft) or trade for like Stromile Swift (rockets don't want him...) C Chris Bosh That would be a cool lineup, the raps would be freaking awesome. Anyway that lineup prolly will never exist, back to reality: Now that you guys have a GREAT GM, the Raps franchise should be back on the right track after a short stint of missing the playoffs, maybe not this yr, but at least in 2 yrs or something...
I never said the dude was the perfect end all PG, not at all. But you're talking about a guy comming outta nowhere -- nobody's ever talked about James; and he does have talent. 20 at 47% 5.8 ast 2.7 To - thats solid game / even if you wanna say he hogs the ball, you cant deny he has ability. From comming from obscurity last yearl I'd of thought yall in Toronto would appreciate dude. But if this is not the case, go ahead and ship him off. But you talking about A. Daniels and names like that? I think you selling James short with that one
We're not doubting his abilities as a player, we're doubting his abilities as a team player. He had decent numbers last season, but you have to be suspicious when: 1. you're playing on a bad team 2. it's a contract year 3. he's put no where near those numbers in his previous seasons Now if he can put up those kind of numbers for the next couple of seasons, playing within the team concept, then I will be impressed. We've had players here before that have good seasons here (during losing seasons), but that doesn't mean that they're as good as they looked (ie. Tracy Murray, Walt Williams, Voshon Lenard).
Mike James should take as many shots as he wants, he makes them all anyway. When the major players for the Raptors (Bosh and Peterson) are on the floor, they get the ball. It's just ridiculous, closed minded, hatred for a player who is intense, cares about winning, clearly, despite wanting the money that he has earned.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Eclipse:</div><div class="quote_post">He had decent numbers last season, but you have to be suspicious when: 1. you're playing on a bad team 2. it's a contract year 3. he's put no where near those numbers in his previous seasons </div> Yeah he was playing on a bad team, everyone knows that Mike James was scoring a hell of alot, hes 6'2" and thats not a matchup problem. Shouldn't it be harder for a player to score more when hes on a bad team and everyone is watching him and Bosh? Contract year? Go take a look at Mike James career and then youll note that hes gotten better every year, and will continue to do so untill he becomes to old, and that wont be for another few years, since he actually takes care of his body. Why wouldn't he duplicate those numbers if hes playing with pretty much the same players. Better players. He had no where near those minutes in his previous seasons...
But I guess he can go join T-Mac, Voshon Lenard, Keon Clark, and all those players who have done well as Raptors. What is this, a development team for guys in their contract year, then we don't open up the wallet and go send them somewhere else, make the league better and us worse?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BlueBayou87:</div><div class="quote_post"> Contract year? Go take a look at Mike James career and then youll note that hes gotten better every year, and will continue to do so untill he becomes to old, and that wont be for another few years, since he actually takes care of his body. Why wouldn't he duplicate those numbers if hes playing with pretty much the same players. Better players. He had no where near those minutes in his previous seasons...</div> If he continues to play like he did last season (selfishly and looking out for his own stats) then his a** will be firmly on the bench no matter where he is. Do you think a winning team like Detroit or San Antonio will tolerate that?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BlueBayou87:</div><div class="quote_post">But I guess he can go join T-Mac, Voshon Lenard, Keon Clark, and all those players who have done well as Raptors. What is this, a development team for guys in their contract year, then we don't open up the wallet and go send them somewhere else, make the league better and us worse?</div> yea, thats exactly what we do. talk to alvin, antonio davis, vince carter, and rafer alston, about having the raps brass open up their wallets. and a max contract wasnt enough to keep tmac around...people seem to forget, he DIDNT WANT to sign here...how do you propose to resign a player that isnt intersted in playing here? you do realize that, that could very well be the case with james as well...he might not WANT to sign here. i dont remembe any indications that he has intentions of signing here either ps...EVERY nba team has good players that develop and go elsewhere...its the nature of the business. pps. learn to use the edit button. it looks like this ----> you're double and triple posting constantly...its against the forum rules. lets all do our part to keep the forum tidy and not waste bandwith. id hate to see you banned because you couldnt take the extra 2 seconds to copy/paste and use the edit function. its there for a reason
