<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Philadelphia 76ers guard Allen Iverson and forward Chris Webber headline the 76ers training camp roster when the Sixers open camp in Barcelona, Spain on Oct. 1, under the direction of second-year Head Coach Maurice Cheeks. One of four NBA teams holding training camp in Europe this October, Philadelphia will participate in NBA Europe Live presented by EA Sports?. The team will hold its annual player Media Day on Friday, Sept. 29, at the Wachovia Center from 12:30?2:30 p.m., with the team departing for Barcelona immediately after. Joining Iverson and Webber this season are veterans Samuel Dalembert, Alan Henderson, Willie Green, Steven Hunter, Andre Iguodala, Kyle Korver, Kevin Ollie, Shavlik Randolph, and Louis Williams. Making their Sixers debuts this year will be Rodney Carney and Bobby Jones, whom the Sixers acquired in the 2006 NBA draft, and off-season acquisitions Rick Brunson, Steven Smith and Ivan McFarlin. The Sixers roster is rounded out with 16 players. Philadelphia will open its preseason schedule in Europe on Thursday, Oct. 5, against Winterthur FC Barcelona at 9:00 p.m. The Sixers first preseason contest at home will be on Saturday, Oct. 14, against the New York Knicks at the Wachovia Center with a 7 p.m. tip-off.</div> Source
Not that surprised with the players on the roster, basically everyone I expected but thanks for posting it up Smitty.
Nice find Smitty. We can only keep 15, so that means one must go. My guess is probably Ivan McFarlin or Rick Brunson. Most likely Brunson IMO, considering all the guards we already have
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">Nice find Smitty. We can only keep 15, so that means one must go. My guess is probably Ivan McFarlin or Rick Brunson. Most likely Brunson IMO, considering all the guards we already have</div> Agreed. One of the categories we were lacking in last season was rebounding. Ivan McFarlin is a terrific rebounder, so I actually see him making the final cut. Not to take anything away from Brunson, he is a decent 3pt shooter and vet PG, but like Brian said, we have enough guards as it is. It's a good idea to add depth to the PF(Henderson, McFarlin: Both are good rebounders) and SF(Smith, Carney , Jones: All oozing with talent and potential and solid defenders) this year.
I think Brunson will be out. They don't need another guard. They pretty much have that covered. Plus, do they really need another aging player? Don't think so.
I think Maurice Cheeks and Billy King will actually keep Rick Brunson, it's actually Kevin Ollie, that'll get the boot. Ollie's a servicable PG, but if there's one thing about Ollie that kills you, is that he's limited offensively. Rick Brunson has a terrific, offensive arsenal, and would be great in a team basketball game. Brunson's shooting abilitys, keeps him on the roster. Kevin Ollie's days, as we know them, are numbered in the NBA. Then again, the Knicks might take a look at Ollie.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Super_Sixer_Fan:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Maurice Cheeks and Billy King will actually keep Rick Brunson, it's actually Kevin Ollie, that'll get the boot. Ollie's a servicable PG, but if there's one thing about Ollie that kills you, is that he's limited offensively. Rick Brunson has a terrific, offensive arsenal, and would be great in a team basketball game. Brunson's shooting abilitys, keeps him on the roster. Kevin Ollie's days, as we know them, are numbered in the NBA. Then again, the Knicks might take a look at Ollie.</div> I don't get why we would drop Ollie. The guy has more experience with the system, and played pretty well last season being AI's backup. Although he may be limited offensively, the guy is a good playmaker and gets things done. He is also a pretty good defender. We all know Brunson is a pretty good shooter, but we don't need more offense. Unless Brunson proves he can be the better defensive player, I see him getting the cut. Not Ollie
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Super_Sixer_Fan:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Maurice Cheeks and Billy King will actually keep Rick Brunson, it's actually Kevin Ollie, that'll get the boot. Ollie's a servicable PG, but if there's one thing about Ollie that kills you, is that he's limited offensively. Rick Brunson has a terrific, offensive arsenal, and would be great in a team basketball game. Brunson's shooting abilitys, keeps him on the roster. Kevin Ollie's days, as we know them, are numbered in the NBA. Then again, the Knicks might take a look at Ollie.</div> We have all the offense we need all ready with AI, Webber, Korver, Iguodala (who will score more this year) and possibly Carney. We really don't need Brunson's offense because even if he gets PT he wont get many touches.
Take a look at the 76ers for a minute you guys, this isn't going to be the same team you saw last year, the 76ers added rebounders like Ivan Mcfarlin, Steve Smith, athletic defensive players like Rodney Carney and Bobby Jones. Now they're going to work on the shooting, they already have Kyle Korver,Andre Iguodala, adding Brunson to the mix gives them a complete team of depth and versatility, Ollie in no way, makes the cut.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Super_Sixer_Fan:</div><div class="quote_post">Take a look at the 76ers for a minute you guys, this isn't going to be the same team you saw last year, the 76ers added rebounders like Ivan Mcfarlin, Steve Smith, athletic defensive players like Rodney Carney and Bobby Jones. Now they're going to work on the shooting, they already have Kyle Korver,Andre Iguodala, adding Brunson to the mix gives them a complete team of depth and versatility, Ollie in no way, makes the cut.</div> With the amount of playing time Brunson will be seeing, he won't be scoring a lot of points. AI's backup does not need to be an offensive weapon. Why? Because he will only see limited minutes per game. AI's backup needs to be someone who can run the offense and keep the game at pace while AI is taking a rest. Kevin Ollie is the best player for that situation because he makes good plays, has expierence within the offense, and plays good defense. Brunson will only come in and take away touches from other players
If we can recall, Maurice Cheeks will be implementing an entirely new offensive system (So I hope). So that Kevin Ollie, a simple player like Ollie, isn't making the cut.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Super_Sixer_Fan:</div><div class="quote_post">If we can recall, Maurice Cheeks will be implementing an entirely new offensive system (So I hope). So that Kevin Ollie, a simple player like Ollie, isn't making the cut.</div> Again, Ollie is the better player for this team. We don't need another offensive weapon. We have enough. The only thing Brunson will bring to this team is more touches being taken away from guys like Andre Iguodala.
Kevin Ollie in a 38 minute span will give you no more then 6 points, in a 4 minute span, Brunson will give you 4 points. If we can't stop people, I'd rather have Brunson over Ollie.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Super_Sixer_Fan:</div><div class="quote_post">Kevin Ollie in a 38 minute span will give you no more then 6 points, in a 4 minute span, Brunson will give you 4 points. If we can't stop people, I'd rather have Brunson over Ollie.</div> Did you read anything I have stated? We don't need more offense. Brunson may give us some scoring, but that's not what we need. We already don't have enough touches to go around between AI and C-Webb and the rest of the group. Bringing in Brunson will not help the situation. Like I said, all we need is someone who can run the offense and play good defense for a short amount of time. That is what Ollie will give us. We don't need another scorer because we have enough as it already is. If you are not going to read anything I post, then I won't bother to respond. Because honestly, I don't feel like debating about someone who will most likely not even get 5 minutes per game. Either way, I will guarantee you Ollie will not get cut Also, where in the world did you get the idea Brunson can score 4 points every 4 minutes. You are bringing him out to be a dynamic offensive weapon, which he is not. Look at the guy's stats: http://www.nba.com/playerfile/rick_brunson/index.html. He has never averaged more than 5.5 points per game, and that was with 24 minutes of playing time. Meanwhile look at Ollie: http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kevin_ollie/index.html. The guy has averaged 6.5 points per game. I honestly don't see what Brunson can bring to this team that will amaze the coaches so much as to cut a proven player within the roster in Kevin Ollie
Ollie isnt the best shooter but I think he makes a better PG than AI. Don't get me wrong, Allen is a great player but he's better suited at SG. Ollie does a good job at setting up people for shots. Plus, he has a cool mustache.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Super_Sixer_Fan:</div><div class="quote_post">Kevin Ollie in a 38 minute span will give you no more then 6 points, in a 4 minute span, Brunson will give you 4 points. If we can't stop people, I'd rather have Brunson over Ollie.</div> Are you kidding me? Four points in four minutes. Let's look at these two, statistically, comparing their two best scoring seasons. In 2002-2003, Kevin Ollie averaged 8 points per game. For that year, if we average his stats on a per40 basis, he'd average: 12.0 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 5.7 APG, and 1.7 SPG In 2004-2005, Brunson averaged 5.5 PPG. For that year, if we average his stats on a per40 basis, he'd average: 9.0 PPG, 3.9 RPG, 8.4 APG, and 1.7 SPG Now, that year, Brunson also started 39 games for the Clippers, playing in a total of 80 games. In Ollie's year, he only started 1 game while playing in only 29 games, ten less than Brunson started. The stats are nearly identical, are they realistic? No. Not only did Ollie average more points (since that's what you think the Sixers need, even with A.I. and Webber), but he's had 6 seasons where he has averaged over 5 PPG, while Brunson has only 1 season of over 5 PPG. Like stated above me, Ollie also knows your system a lot better. Why would you even think about replacing Ollie with Brunson? Do you watch the Sixers play? You are their "super fan." Do you realise the offense they have in Iverson, Korver, Iggy, and Webber? Possibly Carney? What could any more offense possibly do you? 3 more PPG? Wow! Such a major improvement! That'll sure help your team into the consistent playoff contention! Woohoo! Plain and simple, like my boy Smitty has told me, the way you're appealing Brunson to us, you're make him look like the next coming of Christ. Forget Air Jordan, we will have Air Brunson*! Brunson is not best suited for your team, there is a reason why he's fighting for your last roster spot, because he doesn't really deserve it. He has to earn it. Why would anybody pick him over Kevin Ollie? Someone who knows your system, can keep it intact while A.I. is taking a breather, or even injured? I'll tell you one thing, Rick Brunson can't do that. <font size="1">*Credit to Smitty for the catch-phrase</font>
In a way, ollie is almost like a replacement for snow. not nearly as big or tough, but he's the same type of player. I loved snow when he played for us, he was a great defender and always was huslting and looking out for the team. thats really the kind of player we need.
I can't believe you guys are actually arguging about 2 players who will barely get any playing time. But again, the Sixers roster is pretty much set. I think it's pretty obvious Ollie will stay. I hope Shav gets more playing time this year.
Shav really impressed me at the end of the season he started to get into the game more and showed a lot of potential. I think with work he could up his scoring average this year.
I think if he got a little bigger, he could be a major contributor for the team. he has some great moves down low, he hustles as much as anyone on the team, and most importantly, HE REBOUNDS.
