Ron Artest

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  1. ilive4ball

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    So....at this time last year every single one of us die hard laker fans were on this site salivating at the idea of Ron Artest on the Lakers, some of us might've even busted a nut (Don't deny it Shape). Ron Ron was supposed to be the guy that pushed us to over the top. To the next level.

    He's available again, yet the media has barely mentioned it, and we haven't discussed it on the forum. Why?

    If were were able to get him for Bynum, Mihm and McKie I'd say we do it...
     
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    Ron Artest? Personally, I don't really want him in purple and gold. The guy is nothing but a cancer, and is said to be faking injuries now in Sacramento. Back when the Maggette and Artest rumors first started up, some "insider" said that the only reason why Artest wanted to come to LA was so he could promote his rap album. Basically, IMO, Artest just isn't worth. He is a horrible role model, and may set bad examples to our young players. Personally, I don't want him. But the guy is a good player when focussed, and Phil Jackson may be the right coach for him. But there is absolutely no way I would trade away Andrew Bynum in a package for Ron Artest. Ron Artest is only worth expiring contracts and maybe a draft pick IMO
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Brian Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ron Artest? Personally, I don't really want him in purple and gold. The guy is nothing but a cancer, and is said to be faking injuries now in Sacramento. Back when the Maggette and Artest rumors first started up, some "insider" said that the only reason why Artest wanted to come to LA was so he could promote his rap album. Basically, IMO, Artest just isn't worth. He is a horrible role model, and may set bad examples to our young players. Personally, I don't want him. But the guy is a good player when focussed, and Phil Jackson may be the right coach for him. But there is absolutely no way I would trade away Andrew Bynum in a package for Ron Artest. Ron Artest is only worth expiring contracts and maybe a draft pick IMO</div>


    I understand what you're saying, but as a die hard Kings fan I have to say the man is not a cancer in the dressing room. All his team mates love him and Musselman said he has an unbelievable work ethic and is always giving pointers and tips to the younger guys in practice, so I dont think you'd have to worry about him setting a bad example for the kids. His injuries are suspect to some people but the media are blowing it out of proportion as usual, I dont think he's they type of player that would fake an injury 'cause he loves playing, hes a huge competitor. PJ may be able to help him, and it would be a huge partnership between him and Kobe, and if you managed to keep Odom in the deal then you would be conference contenders immediately.
    I can tell you now, he won't be traded for just expirings and Picks, he's worth more than that. Maybe a promising young player, expiring, picks and something else. I'd do that. I'd trade him for Bynum and Mihm but alot of you don't want to do that but if you did you'd be contenders, it's not like Bynum is a huge part for you guys now.
     
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    Either way, there is no way we're trading away Andrew Bynum. Bynum is the future of this organization, and has already shown tons of promise. Although Artest may not seem like such a big "cancer," he has only been with the Kings for one whole season, and many are already speculating on his behavior. I don't really want Artest on the Laker squad because in Sacramento he said that he was unhappy with the amount of touches he was getting on offense. Well, he isn't going to get much more touches if he comes play with the Lakers, since both Kobe and Lamar need the ball to be effective. Also, Artest's contract runs out after this season, and there is no guarentee that he will re-sign with us, considering he said that he wants to go play for an Eastern Conference team. There is no way we are giving up Andrew Bynum for a possible one year rental of Ron Artest. Basically what I'm saying is, the only thing I am willing to give up in a trade for Artest is expiring contracts and a pick. If that is too little, then I guess Artest will have to go elsewhere
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">ilive4ball Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So....at this time last year every single one of us die hard laker fans were on this site salivating at the idea of Ron Artest on the Lakers, some of us might've even busted a nut (Don't deny it Shape). Ron Ron was supposed to be the guy that pushed us to over the top. To the next level.

    He's available again, yet the media has barely mentioned it, and we haven't discussed it on the forum. Why?

    If were were able to get him for Bynum, Mihm and McKie I'd say we do it...</div>

    I won't deny it, I love Ron Artest's game, but I have to flip flop on him this year. I never expected the Lakers bench to be this productive, and I never thought Bynum would develop this fast. I figured Bynum would be slightly better this season, but he's vastly improved physically and mentally.

    I still think Artest is a great fit for the Lakers offense and the complimentary role player for Kobe. However, Bynum is an insurance policy for the future of this team, in the event Kobe can't lead us to a championship.

    Really tough decision, and maybe I'd feel differently if the Lakers had a healthy Chris Mihm available.

    I'm not confident at all with Kwame being the starting center and not having another servicable center to back him up.
     
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    Bynum is off the table. In no way can we trade him. He is untouchable unless we get a Lebron, Wade, or Carmelo for him.. The Lakers have worked to hard and his has too much upside to let go at this point.
     
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    I like Ron Artest, and Phil would fix his brain. There's no need to trade for Artest, just try to acquire him through free agency. Otherwise, let trade Vlad Rad, Chris Mihm, Aaron Mckie for Ron Artest.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Trench Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Bynum is off the table. In no way can we trade him. He is untouchable unless we get a Lebron, Wade, or Carmelo for him.. The Lakers have worked to hard and his has too much upside to let go at this point.</div>

    I agree we cant trade Bynum,also Artest and Kobe together would not work.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">kobe4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I like Ron Artest, and Phil would fix his brain. There's no need to trade for Artest, just try to acquire him through free agency. Otherwise, let trade Vlad Rad, Chris Mihm, Aaron Mckie for Ron Artest.</div>It's well said that Phil will fix his brain. Beacuse he did exactly the same to Kobe. Phil would be great for Artest, but I hope that the front office won't trade Bynum for him. I would give out Bynum only for LeBron/Wade/Melo/Bosh/Dwight/Paul etc.
     
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    Phil kept Rodman under control so I don't see why he couldn't do the same. Since the big brawl two years ago, Artest hasn't been in any trouble. I would love to have him, but I'm not sure how he'd fit into the team. Odom can't play PF again as he did in his first season in LA. Perhaps this could work:

    PG - Kobe
    SG - Odom
    SF - Artest
    PF - Turiaf/Radman
    C - Kwame/Bynum

    Artest would be Rick Fox with more offense. I understand he already has good feelings with Kobe as he said he spoke to Kobe when Artest was on the verge of coming to the Lakers.

    I'm not sure what it would take to get him. Bynum, Odom and Kobe are untouchable.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">kobe4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I like Ron Artest, and Phil would fix his brain. There's no need to trade for Artest, just try to acquire him through free agency. Otherwise, let trade Vlad Rad, Chris Mihm, Aaron Mckie for Ron Artest.</div>

    I don't think anyone can truely fix his brain, maybe help it a lil, but not completely fix it. By the way, why the hell would we trade Artest for them 3? You're only thinking of your side of the deal there. Kwame is a player that we could maybe use, Odom (I know you won't give him up). Just saying, we're not taking your junk for our best player especially since you're in our division and we're such rivals.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">PG - Kobe
    SG - Odom
    SF - Artest
    PF - Turiaf/Radman
    C - Kwame/Bynum
    </div>

    Haha, who did you trade to get him to LA?

    Or are you going by if you singned him through FA, if so, my bad.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shootingmachine Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think anyone can truely fix his brain, maybe help it a lil, but not completely fix it. By the way, why the hell would we trade Artest for them 3? You're only thinking of your side of the deal there. Kwame is a player that we could maybe use, Odom (I know you won't give him up). Just saying, we're not taking your junk for our best player especially since you're in our division and we're such rivals.

    Haha, who did you trade to get him to LA?

    Or are you going by if you singned him through FA, if so, my bad.</div>
    okay let's put it this way, you guys either going to lose him for nothing in 08 or actually get something in return right now. Chris Mihm and Aaron Mckie have an expiring contract, something might interest the Kings. Beside when Mihm is healthy, he is a very servable center that can give you guys 10/10. Add Vlad Rad, a player who is similar to Peja. Maybe you guys can go back to the King's old playing style, run and gun? There's rumor the Kings might even trade Artest for Corey Maggette. Think about it, the package Vlad Rad, Mihm, Mckie, and maybe a bonus Sasha for FREE [​IMG] is better than Corey Maggette. The next time you're asking us to trade Artest for those package once Mihm is healthy and Vlad Rad's hand is fix, we might say sorry 'no thank', so think about it.
     

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