<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Gilbert Arenas would like to go back to school and teach Coach K a lesson. The Wizards' All-Star figures he could score "84 or 85" points if he got a chance to play Duke and coach Mike Krzyzewski, who cut Arenas from the U.S. national team last summer. Arenas has promised this season to take out his frustrations about the national team on Krzyzewski's Team USA assistants, Phoenix coach Mike D'Antoni and Portland coach Nate McMillan.</div> Link Gilbert's gotta shut up now. If he really had a chance to play Duke, he wouldn't have said 84-85, but more like 55-60. Still, he's taking it too far, stick to what you can prove with.
He's just joking around. I don't see the problem with his comments. I'm sure some reporter asked him about it so he just went along and started kidding around. I'd rather him joke around and have a personality rather than being all correct and saying things like "no comment" or "that's not possible to prove." "One college game that's five fouls, right? ... 40-minute game at Duke, they got soft rims I'd probably score 84 or 85. I wouldn't pass the ball. I wouldn't even think about passing it. It would be like a NBA Live or an NBA 2K7 game, you just shoot with one person." It sounds a lot like he's messing around if you ask me.
man u betta get serious and read up on Agent Zero if he scored 60 on kobe and 54 on the suns how are a college team gonna hold him down. what kinda person is gonna question his ability to score 20 more on a college team. He could go for 100 serious. U can't guard a guy that can shoot from halfcourt like jumpers. Who would even comment a college teams abilty to stop an nba superstar and the best combo guard (shooting and driving) in the nba hands down. U don't need to even post!!
i officially love arenas..he is on a mission to prove everybody wrong for the second time..this also gives u a reason to watch somebody play the trail blazers
its just friendly banter, i think its harmless. but one day hes going to piss off the wrong person and end up with his ass on the floor.
lol, that's funny, Gil's a good guy <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">man u betta get serious and read up on Agent Zero if he scored 60 on kobe and 54 on the suns how are a college team gonna hold him down. what kinda person is gonna question his ability to score 20 more on a college team. He could go for 100 serious. U can't guard a guy that can shoot from halfcourt like jumpers. Who would even comment a college teams abilty to stop an nba superstar and the best combo guard (shooting and driving) in the nba hands down. U don't need to even post!!</div> College game is much slower paced, college game is 8 minutes less than an NBA game.
I love this guy's vendettas. Seriously, it's nice to see a little fire in a guy these days, and its good to see that Gil is playing to prove people wrong instead of just for money. I don't see the problem.
talk about cocky... if kobe said that "he take out all his frustrations on some people" then the haters are gonna be all over him saying this and that...
<div class="quote_poster">kobe23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">talk about cocky... if kobe said that "he take out all his frustrations on some people" then the haters are gonna be all over him saying this and that...</div> Kobe's already got the role of hypocrite locked up when he questioned Arenas' conscience when he dropped 60 on the Lakers. Seriously though, NBA players these days are too politically correct when they talk to reporters, and its good to see that Gil plays for more than a paycheck. I think thats great that he uses the fact that he keeps getting snubbed to motivate him.
<div class="quote_poster">kobe23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">talk about cocky... if kobe said that "he take out all his frustrations on some people" then the haters are gonna be all over him saying this and that...</div> That's very nice
<div class="quote_poster">Franchise73187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">man u betta get serious and read up on Agent Zero if he scored 60 on kobe and 54 on the suns how are a college team gonna hold him down. what kinda person is gonna question his ability to score 20 more on a college team. He could go for 100 serious. U can't guard a guy that can shoot from halfcourt like jumpers. Who would even comment a college teams abilty to stop an nba superstar and the best combo guard (shooting and driving) in the nba hands down. U don't need to even post!!</div>Well, Kobe shot 81, so you're saying that he will score over 100 in College atm ? But Arenas is so funny and he always comes out with funny stuff. Still, I think he was VERY pissed off when they didn't let him into the team USA's roster. Go Agent, go !
Yeah, thinking about it the second time around, I guess he wasn't that serious, to mention the chances of him getting 85 points.
Arenas is probably one of the best flat out scorers in the league. But, when he mentions how many points he's gonna drop on this guy and the next, he never mentions winning the game. He is lookin like a bit of a douche. Nobody doubts his scoring ability, but he should focus on D and making his teammates better as well. Whats the point of dropping 50 on your enemies and losing? Makes you look selfish if you have agends other then winning.
<div class="quote_poster">norespect Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Arenas is probably one of the best flat out scorers in the league. But, when he mentions how many points he's gonna drop on this guy and the next, he never mentions winning the game. He is lookin like a bit of a douche. Nobody doubts his scoring ability, but he should focus on D and making his teammates better as well. Whats the point of dropping 50 on your enemies and losing? Makes you look selfish if you have agends other then winning.</div> There is no point, that's why he does it and wins. When Arenas scores 40+, the Wizards are 6-1, the one game they lost, he scored 41, all the games he's dropped 50 or more, they have won the games. Look at the Wizards record when Arenas scores 30+ points in a game. Of course the idea is that if he's dropping 84 or whatever on a college team, they ARE winning the game. EDIT: Forgot to post the record, the Wizards are 18-3 when Arenas scores 30+ points. Also the Wizards need A LOT more than Arenas just playing better defense to win, it's the whole defensive system that needs to be changed, not just one players defense. Team defense >>>> one players individual defense in terms of controlling the opponent. ....and it's really funny that people always bring up this making the teammates better thing. I'm not a fan of the term in itself, but I also think people don't even understand what they mean when they're saying it. I'm not trying to pick on you, but making your team better (a better term than making teammates better) is not racking up APG. Andre Miller averaged 10 APG because he had the ball in his hands all the time in Cleveland, but his team wasn't going anywhere. Brevin Knight also posts some nice APG numbers, similar to Nash's actually in 04-05. We all know about the on/off numbers for players. Well let's just say this, the Wizards are -22.1 when Arenas is off the court, he has a total impact of +27.8 on the team, that's not even reasonable. The offense makes a HUGE (quantum) jump when he's on, and though he's no super defender, the defense is also 6.4 points better with him playing. But on/off numbers don't say everything, so we have to add some first hand observation. When Arenas is off the court, the Wizards can't push the pace nearly as well, even with Daniels. The offense becomes more halfcourt, killing the whole basis of their offense which is running. This is not when the bench lineup is on, this is when Arenas is off, and Caron and Jamison are still on the court, the offense basically dies (of course this is not every single time, but obviously the majority of the time). He makes his team better by pushing the pace, attracting defensive attention, spreading the floor, giving the ball to the right people. The same way a guy like Dirk can make his team better without averaging 10 APG, is how Arenas does it too. If people want to always relate making a team better to assists, then only PG's can make their team better, which is a falacy. The next closests guys to him: Garnett: Off -13.7, Net: +16.2 Wade: Off: - 12.7, Net: +12.9 Lee: Off: -10.5, Net: +13.6 Redd: Off: -9.9, Net: +11.2 JO: Off: -8.5, Net: +11.6 Duncan: Off -3.5, Net: +16.0 Nash: Off: -3.4, Net: + 17.7 Marion: Off: -2.5, Net: +145 We see a pattern here, guys like Duncan and Nash, their teams are good that when they're off, there's a dropoff, but not a gigantic one, but when they're on, their teams are very good that they're beating on opponents. But with Arenas, Garnett, Wade, Redd, when they're on, their teams are better then opponents, though maybe not significantly, since they aren't extremely talented teams. But when they come off the floor, there's a MASSIVE dropoff, it's big enough with Wade and KG, and you see if when you watch this teams, yet the Wizards are almost 10 points worse per 100 posessions with Arenas sitting than both Minnesotta and Miami with Wade and KG sitting. I think the idea of making your team better has really been confused in many people's minds. Maybe it's because of the emergence of Nash, maybe it's because weak scoring PG's like Francis and Marbury who aren't even very good scorers are what people correlate a scoring PG to, but people seem to think it's just related to assisting teammates; but there's many other ways to make your team better, even as a scoring PG.
norespect, I think you were regurgitating Leo Rautins' rant during the Raptors game. I still think you have to take most of what Gil says with a grain of salt. He's entertaining, but when it comes down to the game, there's no doubting his desire.
