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Nikolokolus said:
I don't have a least favorite at the moment. They're all responsible for acting in bad faith and being incredibly myopic and/or idiotic. They had two years to start working on something but each side waited until the 11th hour to even begin putting forth realistic proposals.

The real laugher is that the owners never even tried to put out a proposal where the players could accept it without feeling like they'd just been tea-bagged, and the players foolishly thought they had any leverage to begin with and took a stand on emotional grounds rather than recognizing when to fold and cut their losses.

To hell with all of them.
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A 50/50 split isn't an insult to any player. Giving up 7% is hard, I suppose, but they're not going to see that offer again without agreeing to more restrictions on player movement and a stronger cap limit.
 
I'm definitely pro Pink Floyd.
 
Denny Crane said:
Wrong thread? I'm pro something at least :)
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ooooh, sorry.

I don't know how one can't be Pro Pink Floyd. in fact, it should be mandatory listening for young adults between the ages of 12 and when they die.
 
PapaG said:
Can somebody decipher this gibberish for me? What is a "pro-owner", anyhow?

As for 'massive' pay cuts, the CBA that the union leaders rejected would still have left their members as the most highly compensated athletes, in any league, in the entire world.
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You went right back to the money motive after I patiently explained the other motives!

As my girlfriend used to tell me when we were 15, you have a one-track mind!
 
jlprk said:
You went right back to the money motive after I patiently explained the other motives!

As my girlfriend used to tell me when we were 15, you have a one-track mind!
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I have no idea what you mean at this point. Then again, I've never known what you've meant for 7 or 8 years now, at least.
 
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jlprk said:
You pro-owners assume that the only motivation of the players is, which course of action will make them the most money...

Maybe their biggest motivation is that the owners are screwing them over with gigantic pay cuts and any human being would come out fighting. They'll accept pay cuts, but the owners insist on totally raping them...you're focused on one human motivation, money and selfishness, instead of the many motivations that make the world go around.
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PapaG said:
Can somebody decipher this gibberish for me? What is a "pro-owner", anyhow?

As for 'massive' pay cuts, the CBA that the union leaders rejected would still have left their members as the most highly compensated athletes, in any league, in the entire world.
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jlprk said:
You went right back to the money motive after I patiently explained the other motives!
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PapaG said:
I have no idea what you mean at this point. Then again, I've never know what you've meant for 7 or 8 years now, at least.
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I explained how players have motives other than money, and now you want me to explain my explanation. If I do that, you'll want me to explain my explanation of my explanation. It's time for you to survive on your own. I'm pushing to out of the nest and you better FLY, Sonny!
 
jlprk said:
I explained how players have motives other than money, and now you want me to explain my explanation. If I do that, you'll want me to explain my explanation of my explanation. It's time for you to survive on your own. I'm pushing to out of the nest and you better FLY, Sonny!
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I'm just wondering how a civil suit that ends up in class action damages is going to force the owners into agreeing to pay more in a new CBA than they were willing to agree to last week.

Seems self-defeating to me by the NBA players. Unless, of course, this is just a negotiating tool. Nah, can't be that, right?
 
I'm team neutral.

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PapaG said:
I'm just wondering how a civil suit that ends up in class action damages is going to force the owners into agreeing to pay more in a new CBA than they were willing to agree to last week. Seems self-defeating to me by the NBA players. Unless, of course, this is just a negotiating tool. Nah, can't be that, right?
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So you're saying that because Denny, out of the blue, defined "class action suit," that this must mean that the antitrust suit will devolve into a class action suit. Has anyone told Hunter yet to read our board?

Denny Crane said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_action

The procedure for filing a class action is to file suit with one or several named plaintiffs on behalf of a proposed class. The proposed class must consist of a group of individuals or business entities that have suffered a common injury or injuries. Typically these cases result from an action on the part of a business or a particular product defect or policy that applied to all proposed class members in a typical manner. After the complaint is filed, the plaintiff must file a motion to have the class certified. In some cases class certification may require discovery in order to determine its size and if the proposed class meets the standard for class certification.
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jlprk said:
So you're saying that because Denny, out of the blue, defined "class action suit," that this must mean that the antitrust suit will devolve into a class action suit. Has anyone told Hunter yet to read our board?
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You still haven't answered my question about whom the financial judgement would benefit.

I'm sure it's because you haven't a clue of the answer, though.
 
You actually asked a question somewhere back there? Did the heavens open up?
 
jlprk said:
You actually asked a question somewhere back there? Did the heavens open up?
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You were probably still catching up on posts from a week ago, Grandpa.

Didya hear that the Ducks lost to USC?
 
If the Beach Boys were in the NBA...... would they be first team all league?
 
PapaG said:
Didya hear that the Ducks lost to USC?
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They got pushed out of their nest!

Well,I've been kind of rough on you today, having my fun and all, and I know you have those easily-hurt feelings of youth, so don't get all repressed and damaged permanently over it. I didn't mean it, and while I know that won't stop the bawling, I just want to say to keep your chins up and don't let what your superiors say get to you.

I'll make it up to you. I'm awarding you one free No Wisecracks From JLPRK For A Couple Of Days Coupon.
 
jlprk said:
So you're saying that because Denny, out of the blue, defined "class action suit," that this must mean that the antitrust suit will devolve into a class action suit. Has anyone told Hunter yet to read our board?
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The antitrust cases are class action suits. Someone asked why only certain players were named as plaintiffs. The definition I gave explained it.
"The procedure for filing a class action is to file suit with one or several named plaintiffs on behalf of a proposed class. "

http://www.topclassactions.com/laws...ayers-file-class-action-lawsuits-over-lockout

NBA Players File Class Action Lawsuits Over Lockout

In light of the inflexible settlement negotiations surrounding the NBA lockout, it comes as no surprise that NBA players have filed two federal class action lawsuits against the league, who they say is violating antitrust laws by not allowing them to work.

The players, including lead Plaintiffs Carmelo Anthony and Caron Butler, say David Stern's ultimatums left them no other choice. They are alleging the league's 30 clubs violated antitrust laws by conspiring to enforce an "illegal group boycott and price-fixing arrangement' to coerce players into agreeing to a "massive reduction" in compensation.

New York Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony and four other NBA players filed their NBA lockout class action lawsuit in California federal court on behalf of all players under contract with the NBA, and names the 30 NBA member teams as defendants. An identical class action antitrust lawsuit was filed against the NBA by free agent Caron Butler at a federal court in Minnesota.

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Anyhow, I think the point of these suits is to arrive at a settlement, not a ruling then appeals and so on.
 
As an idependent contractor who isn't under contract with the ownership group, HCP could try to make a case of financial harm due to the lockout as well! :ghoti:

Better call Saul!!

[video=youtube;4dmcT3lvWPM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dmcT3lvWPM[/video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dmcT3lvWPM
 
Mike Love, lead vocal of the Beach Boys (in the middle), has many relatives.
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Kevin
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Stan
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Bob
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Jesus Christ those are the skinniest legs I've ever seen. That guy played basketball?
 
So that's why Kevin Love is so good! He's half black! I fucking knew it!
 
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