Warriors to make an offer for DeAndre Jordan on Friday?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...8vLYF?slug=ys-nba_free_agent_news_buzz_120811

 

I am also skeptical of DJ but I think hes definitely an upgrade over Biedrins. First off just take into consideration the athleticism-size combo. Hes the same height as Biedrins but hes got a much longer wingspan (7'6) and much better athleticism. And he weighed in at 250 lbs. before he was drafted, he might be heavier now. Hes absolutely more of a presence down low and can hold his own against heavy PF/C. Offensively, he has little skill but did put up an unreal 69% from the field last season and his ability to explode to the rim and finish is probably second only to Dwight Howard, right up there with Amare.

It would be a risky signing but hes a 23 y/o C with impressive athletic ability. Those don't grow on trees. Hes still raw and struggles with foul trouble but I think he would absolutely make a difference for us and with any luck he will improve over the course of his contract and grow into a top 10 type of C.

 

Would you have wanted Chandler? He has just as bad of an offensive player, I would say even worse actually although he does have a respectable FT%. Seems like the front office is looking exclusively at defensive C's, I've read speculation that Marc Jackson wants an athletic C to defend the rim. Jordan isn't as good as Chandler defensively right now but he can grow into it. I don't expect him to ever be much of a scorer but you see the way he can finish around the rim and there are very few guys who are in his class. That doesn't mean hes going to develop an offensive game but it is a weapon that he has that most guys don't.

We're all pining for an impactful, top 10 C. Jordan is still raw but hes undeniably a decent C right now and has all the tools to be a presence in the paint. We can keep trying to bid for and trade for established C's but we're going to keep losing out on them or pay too much for them. We would certainly have to overpay DJ in the form of a big contract right now but if he pans out then we'll look good later and we wouldn't have had to give up any talent. Gotta take a risk to get the reward. I don't see any other attractive C options opening up in the future.

 

No. I believe that Jordan may only sign an offer sheet one time. Then its in the Clips' hands whether to match or not. If they match then he's a Clipper, if not then he belongs to whatever team signed the submitted offer sheet.

 

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Per Wojnarowski. Why the f*ck didn't we do this Friday like the initial reports suggested?

 

Clips are on the verge of trading Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe, and Minny's pick to NO for Paul. With Kaman gone its highly likely that they will also match DeAndre's offer sheet.

W's completely struck out on Chandler and Jordan; now where do they go? M. Gasol and Nene are restricted and eyeing max or near max deals with the Rockets and Nets respectively. Lesser C options still available are Kwame Brown and Samuel Dalembert and some young guys who could back up Beans would be Alexis Ajinca and Aaron Gray. Only trade option I see is Okafor who is making ~13-14 mil for the next 3 years- not very attractive.

So do we go after one or two marginal upgrades or stick with what we've got and keep the cap room for the trade deadline/free agency? I don't see many trade options for a C opening up and outside of Dwight next year's C crop isn't that great. Kwame is a good post defender and space eater, a poor man's Kendrick Perkins. I wouldn't mind picking him up but it sounds like he wants MLE type money which is a bit too much for my tastes. Wouldn't want to commit to Dalembert for multiple years and he really doesn't give you anything that Beans can't give us. Landry is a good player but he'd cost a fair amount and he'd probably have to back up Lee.

As far as other FA go Afflalo is an RFA so who knows how much we would have to throw at him to pry him from Denver. I'd love to have him but I expect Denver to keep him unless we drastically overpay. And if we drastically overpay then is it still a good move? S&T seems unlikely as they would likely demand Klay and/or try to get us to take Harrington's contract.

I don't see many options left. Is signing Kwame/Sammy D worth losing the cap flexibility or should we just stick with Beans/Udoh/Amundson? Sadly, I don't see any possibility for any quality C's becoming available at the deadline or in FA next year. Seems pointless to tie up cap space in marginal upgrades unless you can get a good deal a la Dorell Wright. I'd probably prefer to be patient and get some cheap, short term FA with upside. Ajinca, Josh Howard, James Jones, Andrei Kirilenko, etc.

 

Seems like every year we hear "X player gained/lost 15-25 lbs!" and, with the exception of Baron dropping weight prior to his contract year, it never amounts to the player turning anything around. Beans, B. Wright, Randolph, Curry, Dunny come to mind for guys who "gained" 10+ lbs of "muscle" in one summer, allegedly. Baron, Jack, Al Harrington, and this year David Lee for guys who lost weight. I'm not expecting anything of Beans this season though I would welcome it. Just going to wait and see. FWIW Curry and Udoh apparently put on weight too.

How do you define a "better" year philsmith? Is a Beans 10/10/1.5 season better than a DeAndre Jordan 8/8/2 season? Dunno how likely it is Beans gets back to double-double averages but I reckon that Jordan does somewhat better than 8/8/2 of hes the starter. I'm hoping Beans does get "it" back AND puts the added weight to good use. Even so does that make him better than Jordan? Beans is still the better rebounder but I think Jordan is certainly more of a presence as far as altering shots and certainly has the bulk to defend better even if he hasn't learned the nuances of post defense just yet. Both god awful FT shooters and foul machines but Jordan can finish strong under the rim, will Beans get over his fear of being fouled?

I'm interested to see Udoh as well. Just glancing at the numbers from 82games.com, the team was a lot better with Udoh at C than Beans last season. Wonder if he shows any improvement in his offense or rebounding after his first offseason and training camp? Probably would still be coming off the bench but he could get more minutes than Beans overall and close out games.

And yes, I agree with you "i hate the warriors", the whole free agency has been depressing. We just wasted our amnesty on a 4 mil expiring contract. The Paul trade is off for now apparently, and it is Sterling we're dealing with, but it seems like most likely it will have been a really stupid move if the Clips match that contract.