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Natebishop3

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Still holding out hope that Crawford gets traded, but here's the roster as it stands. Who do you guys think will be the starters?

1. Aldridge
2. Felton
3. Matthews
4. Nolan Smith
5. Luke Babbitt
6. Kurt Thomas
7. Joel Przybilla
8. Nic Batum
9. Chris Johnson
10. Greg Oden
11. Craig Smith
12. Elliott Williams
13. Memo Okur
14. Shawne Williams
15. Jonny Flynn
16. Hasheem Thabeet
17. Jamal Crawford

First of all, unless another trade is done, we need to cut two players. I'm thinking Felton and Oden. Just get them out of here. I wish we could cut Crawford but the guy would definitely be on our cap this summer if we did that.

That leaves us with 15. My starters would be:

Flynn
Matthews
Batum
Aldridge
Thabeet

I want to see what Flynn can do in a pick and roll with Aldridge. That's the only reason not to shut LMA down for the season for better draft position. I also want to see what Chris Johnson can do.

Bench rotation:

Babbitt
Nolan Smith
Pryzbilla
Craig Smith

Basically the rest of the season is about evaluating Flynn, Babbitt, Nolan, and Thabeet. I don't have high hopes for Thabeet, but I still think Flynn could be a good player in the league with the right system. I just really want to keep him away from Nate.
 
westnob said:
I would start Okur over Thabeet
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Okur's still injured, isn't he?

Natebishop3 said:
First of all, unless another trade is done, we need to cut two players. I'm thinking Felton and Oden. Just get them out of here. I wish we could cut Crawford but the guy would definitely be on our cap this summer if we did that.
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I would cut the guys with expiring deals that have the greatest likelihood of having their cap holds released this summer. Those would be Felton and Okur.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Still holding out hope that Crawford gets traded, but here's the roster as it stands. Who do you guys think will be the starters?

1. Aldridge
2. Felton
3. Matthews
4. Nolan Smith
5. Luke Babbitt
6. Kurt Thomas
7. Joel Przybilla
8. Nic Batum
9. Chris Johnson
10. Greg Oden
11. Craig Smith
12. Elliott Williams
13. Memo Okur
14. Shawne Williams
15. Jonny Flynn
16. Hasheem Thabeet
17. Jamal Crawford

First of all, unless another trade is done, we need to cut two players. I'm thinking Felton and Oden. Just get them out of here. I wish we could cut Crawford but the guy would definitely be on our cap this summer if we did that.

That leaves us with 15. My starters would be:

Flynn
Matthews
Batum
Aldridge
Thabeet

I want to see what Flynn can do in a pick and roll with Aldridge. That's the only reason not to shut LMA down for the season for better draft position. I also want to see what Chris Johnson can do.

Bench rotation:

Babbitt
Nolan Smith
Pryzbilla
Craig Smith

Basically the rest of the season is about evaluating Flynn, Babbitt, Nolan, and Thabeet. I don't have high hopes for Thabeet, but I still think Flynn could be a good player in the league with the right system. I just really want to keep him away from Nate.
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With only 2 players good enough to actually be considered starter material, does it matter? This lineup will not play better than the one we just had.

I'd sit LA and Nic and play the rest equal minutes the rest of the season as a sort of "who do we keep?" training camp.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I would cut the guys with expiring deals that have the greatest likelihood of having their cap holds released this summer. Those would be Felton and Okur.
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I don't think those guys put cap holds on your salary... isn't that only restricted free agents? They're both UFAs so I don't see why they would take up space when they are free to leave as they wish. I think cap holds only apply when you've tendered a qualifying offer.
 
MARIS61 said:
With only 2 players good enough to actually be considered starter material, does it matter? This lineup will not play better than the one we just had.

I'd sit LA and Nic and play the rest equal minutes the rest of the season as a sort of "who do we keep?" training camp.
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Well, in essence that's what I'm saying, but I want to see how Flynn does with Aldridge and Batum. I still have hope that Flynn has the potential to be a PGoTF and I want to see what he can do with our best players.
 
It looks like Okur is out for the year. I am curious as to who we are starting at center. Does Aldridge move over now?

My guess would be:
Aldridge
Felton
Matthews
Batum
Przybilla or Craig Smith
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don't think those guys put cap holds on your salary... isn't that only restricted free agents? They're both UFAs so I don't see why they would take up space when they are free to leave as they wish. I think cap holds only apply when you've tendered a qualifying offer.
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There's always a cap hold for any free agent. Check out Sham sports--best place to see this kind of stuff. Shows that Felton's cap hold this summer would be 130% of his prior year salary--about $9.8M--unless released, and Okur's is set to be 150% of the prior year, or about $16.3M.

Clearly, neither of those holds will be retained, so there's no point in keeping either player on the roster for the remainder of the year.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
There's always a cap hold for any free agent. Check out Sham sports--best place to see this kind of stuff. Shows that Felton's cap hold this summer would be 130% of his prior year salary--about $9.8M--unless released, and Okur's is set to be 150% of the prior year, or about $16.3M.

Clearly, neither of those holds will be retained, so there's no point in keeping either player on the roster for the remainder of the year.
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Well you're probably right, those will be the guys who are cut, but I don't see how a UFA has a hold on your salary... I've never heard of a team having to release a free agent. Hmmm.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Well you're probably right, those will be the guys who are cut, but I don't see how a UFA has a hold on your salary... I've never heard of a team having to release a free agent. Hmmm.
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It's to prevent teams from circumventing the salary cap by resigning a UFA through bird rights after using cap space to sign other players. Check out the Coon CBA FAQ.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
It's to prevent teams from circumventing the salary cap by resigning a UFA through bird rights after using cap space to sign other players. Check out the Coon CBA FAQ.
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So they basically ahve to renounce their bird rights... can't that be done on July 1st when free agents can sign with teams?
 
I WANT FELTON GONE

Play Flynn. He showed promise his rookie season, although not much of a PG.
 
RoyToy said:
I WANT FELTON GONE

Play Flynn. He showed promise his rookie season, although not much of a PG.
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It was my understanding that he's a pick-and-roll PG and the T-Pups were running the triangle.
 
Natebishop3 said:
So they basically ahve to renounce their bird rights... can't that be done on July 1st when free agents can sign with teams?
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Sure, but why wait? There's absolutely no chance that either one will be retained, so why not cut them now?
 
It should be

Flynn
Batum
Babbitt
Smith
Joel

maximize our potential!
 
I would move Batum from SG to PF. Yeah crazy how that sounds but Camby is gone at center and we have legit players to slide in at SG but nobody ready for fulltime duties as a big minute per game starting PF.

Felton
Crawford
Matthews
Batum
Aldridge

That would be my starting 5. I would reduce Aldridge minutes closer to 30 and see if he can increase his per minute production. I would pull Felton early to get a longer look at Nolan playing extended minutes. We can re-evalute after 5 or so games.

I know some fans will say start Nolan or start Flynn or Craig Smith right away but I think its better to give a young player extended minutes off the bench to build their confidence and get them used to longer periods of play. If you start them and they fail it can crush their development. Think if Nolan had the criticism on him as a rookie that Felton is dealing with today? It might take him years to fit in as a productive piece of an offense even if he had the ability.
 
Whatever roster provides the most entertainment and tries while at the same time losing.
 
Has to be Felton Crawford Nic Wes and LaMarcus.

We have no others who wouldn't get steamrolled as a starter except Joel, who will be lucky to play 20 mins pre game.

Our bench is nonexistent.
 
1 Felton, Flynn, Nolan, E-Will
2 Wes, Crawford, E-Will
3 Batum, ???, Babbitt
4 Aldridge, Craig Smith
5 Pryzbilla, Kurt Thomas, Haseem the Dream
 
Luke is gonna get a big shot here... hope he makes the most of it.
 
I'd like to see the primary rotation be:

Flynn/Smith
Crawford/Williams
Batum/Matthews
Aldridge/Babbitt
Przybilla/Thabeet

Won't happen my way, but that's what I'd want to see.
 
If they don't buy out Felton; then this is the worse management in the league. Get him out now! Find out if Flynn or Nolan Smith can be a decent backup PG, they should have all the minutes. Buy out Thabeet; once you are lazy, it doesn't change! You don't want players like him on your team! Better to have kept Chris Johnson, not because he is ever gonna be an NBA player but he is a hard worker.
I don't see any reason to play Crawford either; I don't care how good the Wallace trade was; this was a total failure not unloading him somehow! So now the only choice is to bench him; Matthews should be started to try to get his confidence back and Williams should play equal minutes.
Center, start Pryz, i like to watch him play.
 
alex42083 said:
Luke is gonna get a big shot here... hope he makes the most of it.
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What I fear is that in these last 24 games he will play with players he would not normally play with. Basically a summer league roster where he is the go to guy. A role that he would not be in after this year.

He will be better suited to play with "real" players and not scrubs. The guy can be a good complimentary player that will excel when other players are the main focus. When he plays with scrubs he plays a role that he just is not suited for. He can be our Frye or Novak.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Still holding out hope that Crawford gets traded, but here's the roster as it stands. Who do you guys think will be the starters?

1. Aldridge
2. Felton
3. Matthews
4. Nolan Smith
5. Luke Babbitt
6. Kurt Thomas
7. Joel Przybilla
8. Nic Batum
9. Chris Johnson
10. Greg Oden
11. Craig Smith
12. Elliott Williams
13. Memo Okur
14. Shawne Williams
15. Jonny Flynn
16. Hasheem Thabeet
17. Jamal Crawford
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You didn't do an updated roster. There you go.

1. Aldridge
2. Felton
3. Matthews
4. Nolan Smith
5. Luke Babbitt
6. Kurt Thomas
7. Joel Przybilla
8. Nic Batum
9. Craig Smith
10. Elliott Williams
11. Memo Okur (still hurt because of his back)
12. Shawne Williams (rumors of buying out his contract?)
13. Jonny Flynn (will be tested at home court)
14. Hasheem Thabeet (will be tested at home court)
15. Jamal Crawford

Patty mills to return if Shawne Williams is bought out?
 
So starting lineup will be ?

1. LaMarcus Aldridge
2. Raymond Felton
3. Nicolas Batum
4. Joel Przybilla
5. Wesley Matthews
 
Pinwheel1 said:
What I fear is that in these last 24 games he will play with players he would not normally play with. Basically a summer league roster where he is the go to guy. A role that he would not be in after this year.

He will be better suited to play with "real" players and not scrubs. The guy can be a good complimentary player that will excel when other players are the main focus. When he plays with scrubs he plays a role that he just is not suited for. He can be our Frye or Novak.
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He just hasn't found his niche on what he is or is not good at. He doesn't know what kind of player he is, and how he's most effective. It's like he wants to prove that he can do everything, but there's nothing wrong with being a Novak type player. Just shoot the ball, find an open area and knock it down.

If he could become a Novak type, that'd be awesome.
 
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