If I guess your password, I can get at your unencrypted data all those places. That's how the celebrities' selfies got out. Nobody hacked the actual servers, just guessed the passwords.
http://images.apple.com/privacy/docs/amicus-brief-support.pdf Here is their actual argument for apple to keep their information secure, even if the government is requesting it. And here are the tools to manage your privacy http://www.apple.com/privacy/manage-your-privacy/
Yes. Google has worked with government and third party partners to give all information of your activity and digital possessions.
And apple will do the same, if court ordered. They cannot access your physical device, as noted by Denny. They can get into your icloud.
And the point is that they did not need to physically access the phone in any way, which was the primary reason of this press release discussed in this thread.
They don't need to decrypt anything if they are provided with a court order, Apple will just open up the data.
Show me where they say they can get into your cloud? The link shows that even when they give access, all information in the cloud is encrypted. They can only access your files on trusted computers that you assign. So as I tell them to "eat a dick" apple can, by the warrant give them access to the cloud, but will see only encrypted information. Good luck sorting that out.
I think that's what you are missing... Apple said everything is encrypted. That's why the article I posted said "Even if they have access, we cannot obtain the information"
Encrypted means it cannot be hacked. Government requests aren't asking Apple to hack into the data, they are asking to get access to it.
LISTEN. ITS ON YOUR FUCKING PHONE. EVERYTHING IS ENCRYPTED ON YOUR PHONE MEANING THEY CANNOT ACCESS SHIT ON YOUR PHYSICAL DEVICE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ACCESS ANYTHING IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE PASSCODE. THIS "WE CANNOT OBTAIN THE INFORMATION" DOES NOT APPLY TO ANYTHING OUTSIDE WHAT IS PHYSICALLY STORED ON YOUR IOS DEVICE. I don't know how many times I need to tell you this until it registers.
The data is encrypted on the phone and stored encrypted. Apple needs your passcode to decrypt it. That passcode is not being sent over the wire so apple can't know it. I'm not saying apple's approach is better than anyone else. But what they are doing is the right and best way.
Again, I was referring to icloud data, not the iphone, which I acknowledge their claim that it can't be defeated via a backdoor.
The data is encrypted on the phone and then sent to iCloud. Apple can hand over the encrypted files. Breaking the encryption? Good luck with that.
Yes if the data isn't encrypted in cloud as well. Fortunately, you need the password to get into the cloud to view things outside of encryption. And apple has stated that they don't have your password.
Show me where "We cannot obtain the information" applies to items store in iCloud and not on your phone. Everything is encrypted everywhere. Listen: If served with a government request for information, chances are, apple will provide any data they need that is stored in the icloud. On the phone itself, they won't be able to because the passcode lock doesn't have a current workaround.
I would not go there ever. Google's security credentials are superb - there has never been any kind of a breach the kind Apple had with Google.
