Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Nov 24 2006, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Have we? We are 4-8 now and we've been blown out twice, we gave up a 25 point lead in Cleveland, we just lost by 9 in Charlotte, we lost to Orlando due to bad defense in the last 2 minutes. We're 4-8 now, and that is no fluke. We are an extremely young team with injury woes and a bad coach.</div>umm, we've only been blown out once. and I think his post was just saying how the record is pretty accurate.
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? warriors have had tons of bad luck and injuries on the one hand, but an easy schedule on the other so I think ours is about right
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Nov 25 2006, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just because Dwight Howard grabs more rebounds than everyone else on the team, does not mean he is the only one that is grabbing rebounds. Everyone on the team is doing their part on the boards, as evidenced by the fact that they are averaging 41.3 rebounds per game, and he is getting 13.7 of those boards. The leaves the rest of the team grabbing 27.6 rebounds per game. Everyone is helping to box out, and grab rebounds. For this to be your favorite team, I don't believe that you have watched them at all this season. They are winning the games, and minus the turnovers, they are winning these games with a good recipe for success. I like the Magic's style of play, taking high percentage shots, shooting a very high percentage, playing team defense, and winning the games they are supposed to win. This is no fluke at all that the team is playing like this.Furthermore, Jameer Nelson is the one that needs to stay at point guard. He does what is needed, if the team needs him to pass this game and it's not in his best interest to shoot, he passes. If the team needs Nelson to score, Nelson steps up and scores. As for the ballhandling duties, Grant Hill handles the ball alot. When he gets rebounds, he is usually the one to take the ball down court, and he has gone and got the ball. When the team is doing sloppy offensively and needs to set up, he acts as the point guard gets the ball, pulls it out to half court, and sets up the offense.</div>You say I haven't watched them all season, but that is some crap. I didn't know you could automatically minus turnovers out of the picture, and think that absolutely everything is fine. Much of the time, I think Orlando relies too much on Hedo, Dooling, and Nelson to make three when they have Dwight and Darko. Okay they beat the Nuggets, but that was because of Carmelo bobbling the ball with less than 30 ticks left (and that wasn't forced either). I give them credit that they beat CHI, b/c Dwight was just spinning of Big Ben like it was nothing. Other victories have been earned, but I think that many of them have definitely have some luck.Look, I love the Magic, but nothing has gone our way since 2003 when T-Mac said he was happy to be in the 2nd round when they still had one more game to play with the Pistons. Juat cut down on the TO's and everything will be fine.
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ProStix#6 @ Nov 25 2006, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You say I haven't watched them all season, but that is some crap. I didn't know you could automatically minus turnovers out of the picture, and think that absolutely everything is fine. Much of the time, I think Orlando relies too much on Hedo, Dooling, and Nelson to make three when they have Dwight and Darko. Okay they beat the Nuggets, but that was because of Carmelo bobbling the ball with less than 30 ticks left (and that wasn't forced either). I give them credit that they beat CHI, b/c Dwight was just spinning of Big Ben like it was nothing. Other victories have been earned, but I think that many of them have definitely have some luck.Look, I love the Magic, but nothing has gone our way since 2003 when T-Mac said he was happy to be in the 2nd round when they still had one more game to play with the Pistons. Juat cut down on the TO's and everything will be fine.</div>Dude, what are you watching? Dooling, Hedo and Nelson don't take that many threes, infact they have shot only 141 on the season, enough for the fourth lowest in the league. Sure they take some three's, but not nearly as much as you say they do. Furthermore, the three's they take are with purpose, to try to open up room for Dwight Howard to operate down low. We take more shots from around the basket area, than just about any other team in the league minus the Utah Jazz. That is why we are shooting the second highest percentage in the league. When you shoot a high percentage, and take good shots, you can afford to have a high amount of turnovers. They are getting better on the turnovers. And if you think some of those wins were by luck, name some, because I'm not seeing the luck. That Nuggets game was lost, not because of Carmelo bobbling the ball with 30 seconds left. They lost because Orlando was just better in the clutch, kept their composure and played hard. Furthermore JR Smith was the one that blew that game for Denver, by bobbling a pass on a fast break that would have put them down by two, then he got the technical which got us points, then he didn't even jump against Ariza on the jump ball. The Magic have been holding on and winning games where we have had big leads, we play defense, I'm failing to see where our record is a fluke. Things are working out well for us this year, so to look and say that the Magic's record is a fluke is just not smart.
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? very good post, but I remember one lucky win. vs. Seattle I think, Hedo's fading game winner.
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Nov 25 2006, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>very good post, but I remember one lucky win. vs. Seattle I think, Hedo's fading game winner.</div>I will give you that one, that is one lucky win. So if he doesn't make that, we are 8-5 right now.
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Oh please stop with the memphis bs. it's worse than most of the Raptors fans before the season talking about them going to the playoffs. MEM had a very solid, well-rounded team, but Mike Fratello seemed to hae problems with those guys. Now they're very young, wild in their style of play, and they're waiting on Pau Gasol to bring them out of their pit? Please stop. Pau Gasol isn't a franchise player in my opinion. When he had Jason Williams, James Posey, Bobby Jackson, Bonzi Wells, and Stromile Swift by his side, he could've easily gotten them a playoff win, but remember what happened? Exactly.Memphis's record is a fluke, it should be worse.[/size]</div>What? First off, Gasol isnt a franchise player? He leAds(led) the grizzlies in points, rebounds, blocks, assists and has been extremely clutch. He brings everything to the table that a team needs. And hes not a franchise player? And, if you go into the Grizzlies forum, I have posted the scores of the grizzlies losses. we havent lost by more than 12 points, most of them being extremely close games. And can you only point out we are young. We have a mixture, Warrick, Lowry, Gay, Robertts-Stro, Stouadmire, Jones, Atkins,Miller. So we are a mixture of both young and old. We have gone to the playoffs the past three years with Gasol leading the way. How is Gasol not a franchise player? Theres few teams that have only one star(Boston,Toronto, Portland, Memphis). And he seems to carry the entire team on himself without any other help, thats why West traded for Gay hoping Gay can be the 2nd star most teams have. We have a very clear style of play, its not wild, its effective. What the F*ck do you have against Memphis? And the Coach Frat rumors arent true. Memphis hasnt gotten worse becuase of Mike Fratello. So to tell you the truth, you dont know what your talking about, so PLEASE STOP
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? I defiently think the heats record is a fluke, I mean they probaly should of won 2-3 more games then they have. I mean they should of won the Denver game, the game last night vs orland and that game vs the 76ers and I could be forgetting some more. I do think the heat will pick up the slack and start playing better ball and probaly be a title contender again.
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? The Suns record is a fluke. We should have beat most of the teams we lost to (Lakers, Clippers, Jazz..). We are clearly better than those teams, but we blew big leads in the fourth quarter and they just turned it around on us...
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (STAT @ Nov 26 2006, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Suns record is a fluke. We should have beat most of the teams we lost to (Lakers, Clippers, Jazz..). We are clearly better than those teams, but we blew big leads in the fourth quarter and they just turned it around on us...</div>Fluke? No. You gus on opening night were absolutely on fire. When that happens, you will cool down. That's what happen with teams like the suns. We outplayed you, destroy your interior and embarassed you guys without kobe.You guys were fluking earlier on.
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? I don't think the Cavaliers record is a fluke. Just like last year, we are losing some stupid games that we should be winning (example, the Pacer game yesterday).I think the Bulls and Bucks will bounce back. The Bulls are to talented to suck that bad the whole year. They will get into the playoffs. I think the Bucks will be in the playoff hunt by the end of the year.
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Nov 25 2006, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fluke? No. You gus on opening night were absolutely on fire. When that happens, you will cool down. That's what happen with teams like the suns. We outplayed you, destroy your interior and embarassed you guys without kobe.You guys were fluking earlier on.</div>Oh but of course, as any laker fan will tell you, if the lakers win, it's because they're a great team that outplays the opponent, and if they lose, it's a lucky fluke.
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 26 2006, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh but of course, as any laker fan will tell you, if the lakers win, it's because they're a great team that outplays the opponent, and if they lose, it's a lucky fluke.</div>No, if we lost it was because the suns were better ie the playoffs.
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? The Wizards are having problems early on due to little flow on offense and a continuation of bad defense. We use to rape on transition and drive to the basket. Now we're settling from deep three's from Jamison and Jarvis. The Wizards record of 4-9 is a fluke, they should bounce back as soon as there offense get to the pace it was last year and Gilbert stops playing around and starts scoring like he used to be able to with ease.
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? I saw a few Wizard games, and Gilbert hasen't really been playing like GIlbert of last year. Is he just trying to get his teamates involved because he really needs to start taking games over if the Wizards expect to win.
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? Every team's record is a fluke... lucky wins mean the other team gets a stupid loss.There's always a few games that they win that they shouldn't of.
Re: Is your team's record a fluke?? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Nov 25 2006, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What? First off, Gasol isnt a franchise player? He leAds(led) the grizzlies in points, rebounds, blocks, assists and has been extremely clutch. He brings everything to the table that a team needs. And hes not a franchise player? And, if you go into the Grizzlies forum, I have posted the scores of the grizzlies losses. we havent lost by more than 12 points, most of them being extremely close games. And can you only point out we are young. We have a mixture, Warrick, Lowry, Gay, Robertts-Stro, Stouadmire, Jones, Atkins,Miller. So we are a mixture of both young and old. We have gone to the playoffs the past three years with Gasol leading the way. How is Gasol not a franchise player? Theres few teams that have only one star(Boston,Toronto, Portland, Memphis). And he seems to carry the entire team on himself without any other help, thats why West traded for Gay hoping Gay can be the 2nd star most teams have. We have a very clear style of play, its not wild, its effective. What the F*ck do you have against Memphis? And the Coach Frat rumors arent true. Memphis hasnt gotten worse becuase of Mike Fratello. So to tell you the truth, you dont know what your talking about, so PLEASE STOP</div><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">Fratello is partly to blame even though he did a great job when he first started the job in place of Hubie Brown. I'm just saying that he didn't have a great relationship with many of the players that he was coaching, even though they were winning. and I'm sure that Mike Fratello had something to do with all of the off-season moves that the Griz have been involved with in the last couple years. Of course MEM has one star NOW. Remember Bonzi, J-Will, Lorenzen Wright, Shane Battier, Bobby Jackson, James Posey, and Earl Watson? MEM had options back then, and they were really good.7 players on the roster are under 25, and it shows. You say that their style of play is effective. Yeah, sure it's effective einough for a 3-10 record. It's so effective that Memphis is 29th in the league in attendance, it's so effective... that it will get them a great draft pick next year.I have nothing against the Griz. Every time they made the playoffs, I rooted for them b/c fans like you in MEM deserve a playoff win. but when you're "franchise player" couldn't even seal one victory when he had a great supporting cast, it lowers my level of respect for his game. Then you expect him to come back nd be Super-Pau and save the day, but that's very unlikely. I wouldn't be suprised if he came back and then "shut it down" the last 10 or 15 games of the season.So no hard feelings, that's just how I feel about the whole situation</span>
