Game 1

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  1. strudwickisthebest

    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    Boyle is involved in every goal scored against.... Hopefully he's hurt
     
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    Stepupstepan Well-Known Member

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    The caps also just played game 7 so you haven't seen the best of them yet.
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    Right step. Rangers have them this game. The depth isn't as good as last year. MSL cannot be in the first line
     
  4. Messiah717

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    The count continues. Nash played his 43rd playoff game as a Ranger and only has five goals. At some point you're just tired of it.
     
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    Stepupstepan Well-Known Member

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    Well, Nash is no Mark Messier. Thats for sure. We've seen enough. I kinda have given up on waiting for Nash to score in the playoffs.
     
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    The Rangers hadn't played a game in 6 days, no shocker they came out a little flat missing one golden opportunity after another or that the refs are going to let them play. Plenty of finger pointing to go around on the last play but Miller should have never iced the puck in the first place. I agree with you about Miller Al, just a little off tonight. Boyle is hot garbage, never want to see a guy hurt but the Rangers certainly wouldn't miss him, perhaps a healthy scratch to make sure his head's healthy. I liked AV sending the crash line out to end the game (very unAV-like), the Caps are a dirty team but none of them wanted to fight Tanner Glass even after he poked Holtby. That's who the Caps are - cheap shot artists that won't drop the gloves. Think with the rust shaken off the Rangers could easily roll off 4 in a row, worst case they win in 5, going on the road means nothing to this team.
     
  7. Messiah717

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    panzer I agree which is why I'm not going to jump off a bridge about this one. Look there's no doubt Ovechkin is the best player on the ice. Overall though the Rangers are the better team.
     
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    I saw it in the regular season. Towards the end he started playing that same lazy playoff style he's known for. He was a beast for most of the season and then fell asleep again.
     
  9. strudwickisthebest

    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    Yandle has been a big disappointment too
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Same crap. Everytime time in the playoffs the teams offense dries up.
     
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    Yup, like I said. You can't expect to win every playoff game 2-1.
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    Yea dump it does seem like that. With the exception of Nash's last second garbage goal the team hasnt scored more than 2 goals in a game

    I think he should juggle the lines
     
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    Juggle nothing. They need to stop playing like they don't know what the playoffs are like.
     
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    Mostly because in the playoffs you score more ugly goals and you need to crash the net. This team is allergic to that. They stay outside, shoot from far out and have no one down low screening or looking for the ugly goal. Everyone wants the pretty goal, and that's where AV's system hurts. It's not a gritty, ugly goal scoring system. It's a stretch pass, use your speed and get pretty goals type of system. There's a reason he didn't win a Cup in Vancouver. He's a great coach, but his system needs a few tweaks to be a great playoff system. Look at the Ducks. They're up 5-0 and they've scored ugly goals and have attacked the net and been aggressive.
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    I still don't understand why Boyle was playing against Washington's first line on both goals
     
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    Boyle needs to be in the stands. This team is in serious trouble. Zucc is out. They have 2 guys in St. Louis and Boyle who are relics and are pretty much washed up where the playoffs are concerned, getting significant minutes. This team looked poor against Pitt. Now, they are playing a much better team. If Nash doesn't start scoring goals, they will lose. Nash needs to be dealt in the off-season if he doesn't score in this years playoffs. You can't get paid 7+ million a year and be what is equivalent to a 10 goal scorer in the playoffs. It's embarrassing. Rangers have been unimpressive in pretty much 5 of 6 playoff games this season.
     
  17. chuckd3534

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    This team has been in trouble since early in the season to you dump.

    On top of that this team has done a ton of winning the past 4 seasons. ECF, SCF, only team to make round 2 at least the past four seasons. I think they know what they're doing.

    AV has made two SCF's, I think he knows what he is doing.

    My comments are pretty simple:

    1. You cannot have MSL on the 1st line. He's just not that guy anymore. Not sure what he adds right now. He gets pounded in the corner and never wins a puck battle anymore. Put Fast there or Sheppard there, they are better options in that spot.

    2. I would take it a step further and mix up the lines a little. We are not scoring. 2 goals max in 6 playoff games (I throw out Nash's 100% meaningless goal in game 2 Pitt).

    3. It is a mystery to me as well why Boyle was out there. He's on the PK for OV's goal (McD/G and Staal/Klein should be the PK pairs...cannot kill Boyle there but still curious why he was even on). Then late I ask the same question. Why Boyle and not Klein or G? Seems odd to me.

    4. The Caps are who they are. To me no doubt we are the better team. I think we saw that last night. Really think how many times were we in trouble in our own zone, not many at all. As much as they talk about other lines on the Caps, which I still don't think they do much against good teams, it is still OV/Backstrom or bust. And PPG's or bust. Now with that said, they are a very dangerous team. OV/PP can win games every night. And Holtby does what he needs to do making a few big saves here and there and not allowing bad goals.

    5. What concerns me, aside from the way we lost, is I thought we played well. We all assume us, but the Caps can play better as well. They might come out on fire tomorrow instead of us if we have any hangover from last night and are a little flat. We say rust and off our game due to 5 days off, well I say we started great and had many chances but couldn't score. I truly didn't see rust, I saw a lack of finish. Now you want to say we didn't finish because we were a hair off due to rust, okay say that, but this team always struggles to finish, so I don't think it was rust I think it was business as usual. And we came out playing well.

    6. Look forward to game 2. We all know we must win it. The team pretty much knows it as well, cannot afford to be down 2-0 to DC. So you have got to figure they come out fired up and ready to play. We are the better team, and I still feel good about us in 7, figured it was always going to be 1-1 to DC. Only thing that makes me a little nervous is are we flat to start off a crushing L last night, which give the Caps a lead early. That would be playing with fire. Short of that we know what needs to be done, must win game 2, and we'll go from there.
     
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    AV knows what he is doing? As Boomer pointed out. He had Miller out in the last few seconds who was an incompetent moron in this game and a relic in Boyle who flat out sucks defensively. Not saying this team can't figure out a way to win this series. However, I'm getting more and more disinterested in this team each year. It's the same crap, year after year after year. Team doesn't score goals for Lundqvist in the playoffs. Period. It's been going on for a decade. A main reason why I watched the draft last night and very little of the game. I've seen this show 70+ times over the last 10 years. No goals for Lundqvist. I didn't need to watch. I basically knew the outcome after the first period.
     
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    Sorry but I get kidder about the draft during intermission and here you admitting not watching the game. Sorry but for all the fucking great info you repeat on prospects you suck as a true fan. You knew the outcome get the fuck out. Yeah we tie the score your sitting there watching who the cardinals are drafting saying.. Oh I dont need to watch I know exactly how this ends. Please just stop stop with the bullshit
     
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    You are hot stuff dump. You talk as if this team has been a failure every season. No ECF or SCF or 2nd round at least four straight seasons. Give me a break man. If this was pre-2012 you would be spot on, now it just sounds ridiculous to be honest.

    You are getting more and more disinterested as the team gets better and better and makes it further and further. Same crap year after year...yeah winning playoff series.

    You are a negative fan, and that is 100% cool and your right to feel that way, but please don't act as if this franchise has been anything but a success the past 3 seasons. No doubt the ultimate goal is winning the cup or bust this season, but don't take away all the good wins we have had the past few seasons, those all happened.

    As for last night, I AGREE that AV didn't have his best game. Why Boyle on the PK and on the last shift? Miller was a little sloppy last night, after a great game 5, nervous I would guess, and he is on for the last shift? I knew MSL was a bad idea on the 1st line, so that I don't get either. BUT don't go larger than that and act as if AV, 2 SCF and 3 Pres trophies, doesn't know how to coach, that is just wrong.

    I am over last night, I knew this was a long series at the start, that's why I said NYR in 7. I figured 1-1 to DC at the start. So to me just win game 2 and we are right where we were always going to be. It is a 99.9% must win IMO. Cannot go down 2-0. I am confident we'll play well, but like I said nervous because of how we lost game 1. I didn't like some of the players comments after the game last night. Took the L hard, which I get for sure, but that's one that could linger, and we simply cannot afford for that to happen.

    Mix up the lines, MSL off the 1st line, Boyle not on the PK or on late in our own zone. Don't be an a** AV and bench Miller or move him down because of one bad game, we need him to score. Then we go from there.
     

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