<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tmgbball15 @ Jul 27 2007, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Killing as a whole is wrong IMO, no matter for what reason</div> Then you and Jesus apparently have different morals. Jesus was a notorious killer of fish.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Jul 27 2007, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Humans. Need. Food.Native Americans sure didn't think it was wrong. You need some protein in you. If we don't kill to eat, then there will be an overpopulation of all kinds of animals, which is dangerous and they'll end up dieing anyway because there's no food for THEM to eat.It's all part of nature.</div>Im not saying we should kill animals for food, I love meat, however that doesn't mean that we aren't killing animals, and no matter how nicely it is done it is still inhuman. Vick is messed up for torturing his animals, but killing is still messed up no matter what<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 27 2007, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Then you and Jesus apparently have different morals. Jesus was a notorious killer of fish.</div> lol that was funny
pigs arent humanely killed they are brutally slaughteredthis is a biased opinion of all people, when sharks or whales or dolphins or dogs are injured people go all sad but then an hour later they go eat meat on their dinner table and they think that the meat just grows on trees or somethingpigs and chickens have it the worst
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (junot111 @ Jul 27 2007, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>pigs arent humanely killed they are brutally slaughteredthis is a biased opinion of all people, when sharks or whales or dolphins or dogs are injured people go all sad but then an hour later they go eat meat on their dinner table and they think that the meat just grows on trees or somethingpigs and chickens have it the worst</div> People usually don't care if dumb animals with little personality are killed. Cows, chickens, pigs....but people can't stand the sight of horses, dolphins, whales or dogs/cats being killed.
Here is the difference that nobody has addressed through three pages. Dog fighting is characterized by schadenfreude and sadism, where as killing pigs is quotidian and prefunctory. In simpler terms, people who go to dog fights, or are in any way involved in dog fights, do it because they enjoy seeing cute animals getting hurt, whereas those that kill pigs, which are just as smart as dogs, do it as a way of making a living.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (junot111 @ Jul 27 2007, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>pigs arent humanely killed they are brutally slaughteredthis is a biased opinion of all people, when sharks or whales or dolphins or dogs are injured people go all sad but then an hour later they go eat meat on their dinner table and they think that the meat just grows on trees or somethingpigs and chickens have it the worst</div>Not the pigs and chickens who get into Chipotle burritos! That's another reason why I like them. A minor reason, but still one...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (junot111 @ Jul 27 2007, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>pigs arent humanely killed they are brutally slaughteredthis is a biased opinion of all people, when sharks or whales or dolphins or dogs are injured people go all sad but then an hour later they go eat meat on their dinner table and they think that the meat just grows on trees or somethingpigs and chickens have it the worst</div>chickens have brains the size of walnuts, so they dont' care.As for pigs, while they're smart and aware, it's artificial selection that has made them our food and dogs our pets. The most friendly wolves realized they could survive if they were appealing to humans, and because of that dogs have made a niche with humans and are protected by us. Farm pigs, on the other hand, would not survive in the wild. Neither would chickens or cows. They've gotten to the point where they'll die young either way, so we might as well make them into spare ribs.But this is all irrelevant to me. To me my objection to dog fighting is that there's so much sadism involved.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 27 2007, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd rather fight to live, then just have some guy hack my head off with a machete</div>Yes but it doesn't make the other one right lol, if I gave someone a quick and painless death while my friend killed someone slowly and painfully, at the trial I wouldn't say "well uhh, my kill wasn't as bad so I should get off scott free."
quotidian? </p> </p> I think the average food animal isn't tortured all that much. We kill them and put them in our trunks, and most of the time when we kill people we put them in our trunks them kill them. That's worse, isn't it? </p>