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tester551 said:
Highly doubt that....
I highly doubt that 6ers would even do CJ/Harris straight across.
All that is wishful thinking on your part
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possibly. But that team has been good for a couple years despite not having a playmaking jump shooter. That’s the chink in their armour.
 
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tester551 said:
Highly doubt that....
I highly doubt that 6ers would even do CJ/Harris straight across.
All that is wishful thinking on your part
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Not even straight across? What are you talking about lol. CJ is a better scorer and playmaker than Tobias. He’s the perfect guard for Simmons and Embiid. The pick and roll/pop between all three of them would be deadly. And next year CJ is gonna be $5 mil cheaper than Tobias. Add these up and Philly would love to get CJ for Harris
 
damianlillard said:
Not even straight across? What are you talking about lol. CJ is a better scorer and playmaker than Tobias. He’s the perfect guard for Simmons and Embiid. The pick and roll/pop between all three of them would be deadly. And next year CJ is gonna be $5 mil cheaper than Tobias. Add these up and Philly would love to get CJ for Harris
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When you take off the 'homer' glasses and take a the general consensus at large - Harris is viewed as being more valuable.

This isnt a large sample size - but over half the people dont think Philly would consider that deal.
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2074859&sid=c82cdea85e84a62850a420e835d5a772
 
tester551 said:
When you take off the 'homer' glasses and take a the general consensus at large - Harris is viewed as being more valuable.

This isnt a large sample size - but over half the people dont think Philly would consider that deal.
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2074859&sid=c82cdea85e84a62850a420e835d5a772
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Interesting. And btw I don’t like CJ at all like not at all. So don’t call me a homer. If you have known me, you would know that I have thrown the CJ trade a lot around here. With that being said, I think the fans are trying to say that is CJ worth creating a gap at the 4. If we included RoCo, I think we may get their attention
 
D69.... who had Giannis and Gobert as Top 3 players in their Drafts, has a couple of players that might be available around the 12-14 range that he thinks would be good gets for Portland.

I promptly forgot a couple of the names, but one reminded him a bit pf Giannis. One name I do remember was Scottie Barnes, a rangy 6'8" wing who can defend multiple positions and be a playmaker.
 
Yessir! My type of thread. We need to get ready for the draft. Make moves. Package with a player. This is why id rather have the pick. Blazers suck and going nowhere.
 
Usman Garuba

This is a player that I’d put at or near the top of my list.
 
TBpup said:
D69.... who had Giannis and Gobert as Top 3 players in their Drafts, has a couple of players that might be available around the 12-14 range that he thinks would be good gets for Portland.

I promptly forgot a couple of the names, but one reminded him a bit pf Giannis. One name I do remember was Scottie Barnes, a rangy 6'8" wing who can defend multiple positions and be a playmaker.
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Maybe Kai Jones is who you’re thinking of? If not, I still like him a lot. I think he can be an impact player in the league. He’s more of a Christian wood to me though
 
damianlillard said:
Maybe Kai Jones is who you’re thinking of? If not, I still like him a lot. I think he can be an impact player in the league. He’s more of a Christian wood to me though
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I'll ask him to text the specific names. No one is always correct, but he has been uncannily accurate over the years so I've learned to trust his recs even if I have no idea who the player is.
 
First NBL triple double for Josh Giddey, 12 (83%)/10/10. He's been threatening a triple double nearly every game, and has finally cracked it. He's averaging 11.09 (42%/31%/65%)/7.43/7.13. Obviously needs to continue working on his shooting, but it has been improving throughout the season.

 
DUB said:
First NBL triple double for Josh Giddey, 12 (83%)/10/10. He's been threatening a triple double nearly every game, and has finally cracked it. He's averaging 11.09 (42%/31%/65%)/7.43/7.13. Obviously needs to continue working on his shooting, but it has been improving throughout the season.

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He is an intriguing prospect for sure. His potential like a lot of people really come down to his shooting. I have a tough time seeing him as a superstar but can see him as a nice star player for team
 
DUB said:
First NBL triple double for Josh Giddey, 12 (83%)/10/10. He's been threatening a triple double nearly every game, and has finally cracked it. He's averaging 11.09 (42%/31%/65%)/7.43/7.13. Obviously needs to continue working on his shooting, but it has been improving throughout the season.

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Didn't know Benedict Cumberbatch played basketball.
 
Here's a trade no one will like very much.

Tobias Harris to Cleveland
CJ McCollum to Philly
Kevin Love and Matisse Thybulle to Portland

Cleveland needs to add some sweetener (to someone). This would be an extreme buy-low scenario, but if Melo, CJ, and Kanter are off the team, we might be able to live with Dame and Kevin Love being the only negative defense rotation players, and it would give Dame a great pick n pop partner.

Lillard/Powell/Roco/Love/Nurkic
Simons/Thybulle/Little/Collins

I think we'd want to bring in a vet PG as well (Cory Joseph) and another backup big (Ed Davis). That team isn't perfect by any means, but I think it'd be more cohesive and guys would know their roles more than what we're rolling out now.
 
boredinsalem said:
Here's a trade no one will like very much.

Tobias Harris to Cleveland
CJ McCollum to Philly
Kevin Love and Matisse Thybulle to Portland

Cleveland needs to add some sweetener (to someone). This would be an extreme buy-low scenario, but if Melo, CJ, and Kanter are off the team, we might be able to live with Dame and Kevin Love being the only negative defense rotation players, and it would give Dame a great pick n pop partner.

Lillard/Powell/Roco/Love/Nurkic
Simons/Thybulle/Little/Collins

I think we'd want to bring in a vet PG as well (Cory Joseph) and another backup big (Ed Davis). That team isn't perfect by any means, but I think it'd be more cohesive and guys would know their roles more than what we're rolling out now.
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Id do that as it address's two areas. One of the best up and coming defenders and a big that come replace Melo off the bench.
 
boredinsalem said:
Here's a trade no one will like very much.

Tobias Harris to Cleveland
CJ McCollum to Philly
Kevin Love and Matisse Thybulle to Portland

Cleveland needs to add some sweetener (to someone). This would be an extreme buy-low scenario, but if Melo, CJ, and Kanter are off the team, we might be able to live with Dame and Kevin Love being the only negative defense rotation players, and it would give Dame a great pick n pop partner.

Lillard/Powell/Roco/Love/Nurkic
Simons/Thybulle/Little/Collins

I think we'd want to bring in a vet PG as well (Cory Joseph) and another backup big (Ed Davis). That team isn't perfect by any means, but I think it'd be more cohesive and guys would know their roles more than what we're rolling out now.
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I know Cleveland would love it! Trade a negative asset (Love) for Tobias Harris! Super!
 
boredinsalem said:
Here's a trade no one will like very much.

Tobias Harris to Cleveland
CJ McCollum to Philly
Kevin Love and Matisse Thybulle to Portland

Cleveland needs to add some sweetener (to someone). This would be an extreme buy-low scenario, but if Melo, CJ, and Kanter are off the team, we might be able to live with Dame and Kevin Love being the only negative defense rotation players, and it would give Dame a great pick n pop partner.

Lillard/Powell/Roco/Love/Nurkic
Simons/Thybulle/Little/Collins

I think we'd want to bring in a vet PG as well (Cory Joseph) and another backup big (Ed Davis). That team isn't perfect by any means, but I think it'd be more cohesive and guys would know their roles more than what we're rolling out now.
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If Portland feels like Thybulle can become their Mikal Bridges, then this is actually a pretty good deal; Philly would need a couple of picks their way courtesy of Cleveland as well.

I would bring Love off the bench and roll with a starting lineup of:
Dame/Norm/Tisse/RoCo/Nurk

And if Nurk is in foul trouble or not having a better game, a finishing lineup could look like:
Dame/Norm/Tisse/RoCo/Love
 
My thought is that at least Love passes the damn ball and could serve as a playmaker in the second unit for 20 mpg. I think our young guys would like playing with him. It's also a forgotten skill of his, but his outlet passes are (or at least were) nasty. We could play up-tempo as a change of pace when Dame and Nurk are off the floor.

(vet PG - my preference is Cory Joseph)/Simons/Nas/Love/Collins
 
boredinsalem said:
My thought is that at least Love passes the damn ball and could serve as a playmaker in the second unit for 20 mpg. I think our young guys would like playing with him. It's also a forgotten skill of his, but his outlet passes are (or at least were) nasty. We could play up-tempo as a change of pace when Dame and Nurk are off the floor.

(vet PG - my preference is Cory Joseph)/Simons/Nas/Love/Collins
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Ehh is he better though. His assist numbers have been lower than CJ and even Nurk. Both of them actually have a higher career assists rate than him. Then you add the fact he has been cursed with injury the last few seasons. And his humongous contract that’s essentially untradeable. And he’s getting old. I much rather have Tobias Harris than Love
 
damianlillard said:
Ehh is he better though. His assist numbers have been lower than CJ and even Nurk. Both of them actually have a higher career assists rate than him. Then you add the fact he has been cursed with injury the last few seasons. And his humongous contract that’s essentially untradeable. And he’s getting old. I much rather have Tobias Harris than Love
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I wonder if there's anything we could add outside of Nas to make T Harris + Thybulle work? We don't really have any other traceable assets that would fit other than Roco, who I would really hate to give up.
 
(Scottie Barnes)

This was just the first few games of the season. It got better. He can be very disruptive (tremendous wingspan), is a good distributor and has seemingly a ton of potential to get better.
 
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Scottie is one of my favorites too. I have my questions about him, but his motor and intelligence make him very intriguing. If he shoots a little, he's a starting 4 on a good team long term.

This draft is actually pretty flush with interesting wing and forward types even into the late first / early 2nd.
 
TBpup said:
(Scottie Barnes)

This was just the first few games of the season. It got better. He can be very disruptive (tremendous wingspan), is a good distributor and has seemingly a ton of potential to get better.
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Fits the Draymond role with more upside.
 
BonesJones said:
Fits the Draymond role with more upside.
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It'll be interesting to see what his rebounding and rim protection looks like outside of FSU's defensive system.

They often used him at the point of attack and switched a ton on and off the ball so we didn't get a great sample of him doing those things.

If he's not able to play center much at all though and his shooting doesn't come along (I'm fairly optimistic it'll be ok enough), his projection gets a little murkier. Still a guy that finds a way to make an impact regardless though imo.
 
Josh Giddey with consecutive triple doubles.

Bullets fail to fire as 36ers keep finals hopes alive

In his first game since declaring for the 2021 NBA draft, Giddey lit up the Adelaide Entertainment Centre on Saturday night with 15 points, 11 rebounds and 13 assists in a 101-79 win.

Giddey became the youngest Australian to notch a triple double in his side’s last-start loss to the Breakers and is now the first Australian to record back-to-back triple doubles in NBL history.

“It’s cool to have those stats … but I’d rather have zero points and get a win than have a triple double and lose,” Giddey said.

“I give a lot of credit to my teammates because they make me look good.
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Josh Giddey with his third triple double. This time with NBA scouts sitting in the stands, who went through two weeks in quarantine to get into the country to watch him.

 
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...-100-seniors-nba-preliminary-early-entry-list

With just a senior class that big, plus being the "double draft" with HS'ers allowed back in, there's sure to be some decent players going undrafted. I wonder if that played into the team's willingness to part with this upcoming draft pick in the RoCo trade? The 2nd round gems they usually look for might now be draft invitees.

Drew Timme, for example, is ranked #77 by ESPN:

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/4

If that's indicative of the talent level expected to slide outside the top-60, that's as good as a late 1st round pick in a weak draft.
 
Better start checking out 2nd rounders, as we have lost our first rounder.
 
How would help us if he sitting on the bench always hurt I would stay clear anything doing with Love.
 
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