Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

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    Guns Leading Killer of Kids: With MSU Massacre, U.S. Averages More Than One Mass Shooting a Day

     
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    Like saying:
    It's okay to push certain people to a murderous state of mind as long as we restrict everyone's rights enough that they are helpless beyond the limits of their own physicality.
     
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    Nope. I get it Phats. Guns are here to stay. Murders are here to stay. People are too afraid and to selfish to do what's right. I get it. Just pointing it all out. Keep the guns. Enjoy the murder.
     
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    Except the guns don't make a significant difference. You're acting like they do, while I've shown repeatedly that gun restrictions don't make much of a difference. Otherwise we'd be seeing lower rates of gun crime here in Oregon and Portland. But we're seeing the opposite.

    You're going to have to focus on other things if you actually want to reduce violent crime and murder rates. Including mass murders and mass shootings.
     
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    In shootings?!?

    You get rid of guns and you'll maybe have a few bow-and-arrow shootings a year.
     
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    That appears to be the claim.

    Now, my question is, where has that ever happened? What place had a problem with frequent shootings that was solved by gun restrictions?
     
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    Australia
     
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    This is simply not true though. They have more guns now than they had before the gun restrictions, and they didn't have a gun crime problem before the restrictions. They responded to a single incident. The worst in their history.

    Again, the US saw similar reductions in all kinds of violent crime (including gun crime) starting over the same time frame as Australia while the US doubled the number of guns and let the assault weapons ban expire.

    Australia still has shootings. At relatively similar rates as they ever did.

    It's far more likely the reduced violence in both countries was due to improving Gini coefficients thanks to historically low prices and inflation as their markets were flooded by cheap goods from the collapse of the Soviet Union and ultra cheap labor in China.
     
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