Re-signing Grant

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  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    You pick a number and don't go above that. I said $30 million per year, which is still a bit overpaid. Think of it as him being worth $25 million with a $5 million Dame tax.

    If he wants $35-45 million per year you have to let him walk. I can't believe posters are saying to resign him at any cost.
     
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    I don't think there is any team out there that would give Grant 30M/year
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Your using Ben Simmons contract as a means to justify overpaying Grant?

    Ben Simmons contract is worth less than nothing - the Blazers would be very stupid to try and create another one of those for 5 more years.
     
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    I think Cronin would - I fear he may give him more.
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Ok... you have to see the humor here.

    Leonard - traded for Whiteside.

    Crabbe - traded to the Nets.

    Turner - traded to the Hawks for Bazemore.

    Nurk - I don't think he's grossly overpaid...
     
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    I'd estimate $25 million per year is the break even spot. I'd go up to $30 million to have a slightly negative asset as a "Dame tax". I'm not paying any more than that.
     
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    You know who is on the Blazers cap next season until 2024; a 34 year old Andrew Nicholson for $2.8 million as a cost of the Crabbe contract. We've been paying nearly a decade for that stupid decision back in 2016.

    So you want to set the Blazers up to get a return like that in a trade? Why do you want that? What did the Blazers get of value in any of the above deals.

    They would be much better to just walk away from these negative contracts right now.
     
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    A 6'8 forward who is a mediocre defender, too slow to play SF and too weak of a rebounder to play PF while seeming to be sort of athletic is very rare indeed.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    They were still moveable contracts. The Crabbe one was the only trade that brought back negative value - albeit less negative value than Crabbe.

    We traded for Whiteside because Nurk was injured. We traded for Baze because we thought he'd be a better fit. Neil sucks but those contracts didn't hinder us from trading them.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    And yet he's widely considered one of the top free agents this summer.
     
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    Incorrect - backloading a contract makes it less valuable in trades, as the cheap years are already used up and the acquiring team has to pay those increases in later years while not receiving the cheaper initial seasons.

    If the Blazers want to make the contract have the highest trade value they should front load it with the maximum decreases allowed. However that may increase the cash the Blazers pay this season and we've never seen a Jody move take on more cash in a current year than is required.
     
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    Thats because with the recent CBA changes all the good and great players sign extensions.
     
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    Maybe do that then. Eat the bigger part first so that he's easier to trade in a year or two.
     
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    Sign and trade! (Grant) go after PF and picks

    Dame will be traded this week to Nets

    Blazers acquire Ayton, using some of our new picks from Brooklyn in a Dame Trade along with Nurkic
    in 3-team deal with Philly & Suns?

    rebuild now
     
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    I will go into it more once IF /When Dame asks out but I suspect they never had any intention to re-sign Grant and he was just a tool for the Blazers to use and throw away. Now IF Dame stays and Grant gets a huge deal then I am wrong but I am suspecting that I am not and the more and more I think about it I pray I am wrong. However If my theory is correct Jody and this front office are the worst in the NBA and her selling cannot come soon enough and cannot Blame Dame for wanting to leave and PA has to be rolling over in his grave.

    I hope I am wrong and maybe I am reading WAY WAY too much into this but i will break down my thinking if the worst happens and you will see why I came to this crazy thought in detail.
     
  16. PtldPlatypus

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    Amazingly enough, 8% raises over his current salary is almost exactly average value of $25M/year. I'm guessing Grant is expecting better than that.
     
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    Why

    is Jerami not signed yet?
     
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    Because he turned down the extension for a 5th year. I believe that can't be officially done until July 10.
     
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    It can be announced tonight at 6pm eastern.
     
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