How's everyone feel about Smokin' Joe Cronin now?

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    maybe...I just see CJ 2.0
     
    wizenheimer, Sep 27, 2023
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    You're not the only one...
     
    CJ_is_Gone, Sep 27, 2023
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    More like CJ 0.75. I think CJ has/had more skills.
     
    GrandpaBlaze, Sep 27, 2023
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    Cj was way better than Ant. He won with Dame. Ant couldn’t even help impact winning for Dame whose even better than when Cj had him..
     
    AldoTrapani, Sep 27, 2023
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    Still think he did Dame completely wrong, but with the Dame part of this saga over and done with, I'm moving on because rehashing it is pointless.

    The Ayton part was good. First trade where you can argue he won value wise other than the JG trade that Dame made happen. Ayton trade gets a thumbs up despite my reservations.

    As far as the Dame part of this trade, it hinges on the Jrue trade. Blazers should've gotten Beauchamp back, but whatever. Blazers need at least two first round picks for Jrue for it to be acceptable at all. Three for it to be better than an offer of Herro, two 1sts and swaps (which a lot of people said was horrible). Anything more than three firsts and it's pretty damn good.

    I like that he's going the unprotected picks direction instead of OG.
     
    BonesJones, Sep 27, 2023
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    Can't wait for "CJ 3.0" (Sharpe)
     
    BonesJones, Sep 27, 2023
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    Based on what?

    Joe is probably going to take a first, a swap, expiring stuff, and send jrue to a market he wants to go to (LA).
     
    Samuel, Sep 27, 2023
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    because if we only got, say, one first for Jrue and salary filler, it'd be two firsts and two swaps for Dame. Even Miami's "awful" package that included Herro and two 1sts is better than that, because Herro probably could've been flipped for another 1st.
     
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    I would listen to Utah, Chicago (get our pick back for starters), Miami, Brooklyn and Toronto.
     
    BoomChakaLaka, Sep 27, 2023
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    Maybe something heavily protected. Herro's is way overpaid.

    Jrue is gonna net a better pick(s).
     
    craigehlo, Sep 27, 2023
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    Insane
     
    Phatguysrule, Sep 27, 2023
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    I don't see more runway with contracts like Grant's on the team. It's worse than anything that was on the Blazers' roster when Cronin took over and he's not younger than most (all?) of the guys Cronin traded away. Ayton is younger, for sure, but he makes more money and just got sent to us in a salary dump, essentially.

    If we get assets of consequence for Grant: great. I don't know what team is going to be willing to give us anything and I find it just as likely we'll have to give up something to get out from under his contract. Guess we'll see, but right now I see it as a negative and the point of this thread was to ask peoples' opinions about how Cronin has done.
     
    Ed O, Sep 27, 2023
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    Good. Someone is going to massively overpay OG and there's a good chance that he causes waves when he doesn't get to touch the ball more in a contract year...
     
    Ed O, Sep 27, 2023
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    how the heck are the Blazers gonna squeeze Jrue Holiday into the rotation? I guess Blazer fans just need more patience until Cronin trades Holiday.
     
    Whyachi, Sep 27, 2023
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    I don't know, but I'm happy to wait for a better return than can be obtained now.
     
    blazerfan11, Sep 27, 2023
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    Possibly. I think Herro had a little more value than that though.
     
    BonesJones, Sep 27, 2023
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    PG Holiday
    PG Scoot
    PG/SG Simons
    ------ non of them over 6'4"
    Shaedon SG
    Thybulle SG/SF
    -- still kinda shrimpy
    J.Grant SF with PF offense
    ....
    Ayton IS GOING TO GET SMOKED in the paint
    Blazers might give up 130 a night
     
    Whyachi, Sep 27, 2023
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  18. Whyachi

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    Jrue was an All-Star star last year. Blazers have to trade him at deadline to tank the living hell outta the season.
     
    Whyachi, Sep 27, 2023
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    This starting lineup (below) gave up 110 points/game on average in the first 20 games of 2021.


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    blazerfan11, Sep 27, 2023
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    yes, 20 games of .500 ball. Before Nurkic wears out, and when Covington actually gave a crap. + better bench then the 2023 Blazers Summer League team.
     
    Whyachi, Sep 27, 2023
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