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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    They don’t have the power to do that do they?
     
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    not really...there doesn't seem to be any real lever the state can apply anymore

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    https://around.uoregon.edu/content/uo-enters-new-era-governed-its-own-board-trustees

    the governor appoints the board and the senate approves. But any attempt to harm the UofO in OSU's favor will meet very strong resistance and almost certain litigation. UCLA was subordinate to the California Board of Regents. The UofO is not subordinate to the Oregon Board of higher Ed
     
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  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    So many sour grapes.
     
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    there's a long history of resentment built up institutionally in the UofO for the State Board of Higher Ed

    it really took off in 1974 when the Board and the Legislature stripped OHSU from the UofO. I've detailed what I know here about how the motivations for that was to keep Oregon and OSU on equal footing as the UofO medical schools were were propelling the UofO to much more academic prestige (and federal money) then OSU. There was also a lot of concern about the UofO accruing too much political power by having such a significant footprint in Portland. Taking OHSU from the UofO was all about propping up OSU at the expense of the UofO

    the state board, and the legislature, used the cover of efficiency and reducing the bureaucracy. They said the UofO was inefficient in having two campuses so many mile apart. Ironically , the same board said it was just fine and dandy for OSU to open up an ocean research satellite campus in Newport, and a 3rd campus in Bend. But the UofO had to be confined to Eugene for some reason

    the UofO applied at least twice, might have been 3 times, to open an engineering school. But each time it was denied because of the possibility of competing with OSU. Of course, that same standard doesn't apply to a school of business as both universities have one. And the board didn't stop OSU from starting an undergraduate law school, even though it could compete with the UofO. Of course, I think that school has been close

    anyway, it was that history and more that was percolating when the State Board fired UofO's president in 2011. That was the final straw and the UofO started an independence campaign and Phil Knight got heavily involved. Less than 3 years later, the UofO gained autonomy
     
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    Looks like my daughter is gonna have games in Corvallis and Pullman for the next few seasons!
     
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    So that's Gonzaga conference and Univ Portland with a bunch of Cali schools.

    Assumed basketball would be in MWC just like football, wonder why this conference.
     
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    WCC is a stronger bball conference than MWC imo.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Are you legally allowed to go see her in person, or are you still banned from the campus? You know, after that... incident.
     
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    they're about the same. If the WCC is a little stronger it's because of Gonzaga, and the definition of stronger. The WCC might actually have worse teams at the bottom each year

    the advantage of the WCC for OSU is that every single school is in the Pacific time zone; no jet lag. My guess, looking at the MWC and WCC teams, is that WCC teams offer bigger and more accessible airports nearby and less travel hassle

    this seems like a pretty practical solution, short-term. I'm not sure how the Pac-2 can keep the PAC alive while splitting affiliations like this though. Sure looks like the MWC has grown more reluctant with the idea of dissolving in 2 years and joining the PAC . Lots of obstacles to that though
     
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  13. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Not sure that there is much jet lag in visiting Tucson or Tempe, or Colorado and Utah.
     
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    I was talking about MWC teams, but ok. I'm old so I get jet lag driving to the store and back. It's 7 miles to the east of here
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Oh, I do too. But I'm old and not in my prime.

    I think that was about 30 years ago for about 15 minutes.
     
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    our long nightmare is over...maybe:

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    LOL...."millions of fans"....and LOL again at them taking a victory lap when those two presidents were two of the primary architects on the demise of the Pac-12
     
    wizenheimer, Dec 21, 2023
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Interesting thing.... the WCC schools average about 9,500 student enrollment. Crazy small.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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  19. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Stanford and Cal have to be tripping, lol.

    But it should open the door for OSU and WSU.
     
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    Have them fuckers fly across the country lol
     
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