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  1. robson

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    So one guy tells me, that his career numbers are small sample size and 4 last games are who he really is...
    And other gives ONE Kareem example to show me soft theory has "so many holes".

    I hope he will be better with Scoot in S5 and they will work it out. I believe he will be better after vets are gone. I am not sure he will be greatest option for our future.
    All good to you guys and Go Blazers!
     
  2. PCmor7

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    You're repeating yourself and undermining your own argument in doing so.

    You judged him on a small sample size, so you fundamentally cannot defend your own argument by saying someone else is using a small sample size.

    Playing up to expectations is moot and subjective at that. The question is whether he plays well. He does. He produces. He's always produced. Again, just south of 20 ppg, more than 10 rpg every year and close to 60% FG. That's his whole career, which, as you yourself said is not a small sample size.
     
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    Um, not sure you are getting this, but you were basing your assessment on 28 games instead of a whole career. That's a small sample size, too.

    Stop picking a word out here or a word out there to try to defend a lousy argument.
     
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  4. robson

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    And I'm not sure where your 28 games came from. Anyway, let's cut it here;)
     
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    You got one thing right. It should only have been 27 ... that's the number of games Ayton actually played with the Blazers before going on this strong, 5-game run.
     
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    Another win: I'll remember from now on, that 5>27
     
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    Or remember 4 years>27 games?
    :dunno:
     
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    Must be doing that new math because 6 years> 27 games.
     
  9. robson

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    Oh, so it is 6 years now? Not 5 games?
     
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    That's been pointed out to you ad naueum. But, by all means, keep trying to deflect and distract. You just make yourself look more foolish or trollish.

    The last five games are very much in line with the numbers he put up his entire career. His first 27 games with the Blazers didn't align with that performance, but, as a couple of us have pointed out, there were reasons that explained that. His current performance is right at his mean. <I just wanted to point this out because you're probably going to try to run away from it the next time you post something.
     
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    Jesus, why do I even talk to you..

    His 6 years in Phx wasn't good. Phx fans don't cry after him.
    He came here for a new start. So far he is not so good. And his 5 games were far from MVP level.
    That's all I'm saying.
    He's got long way to go to cover his ego.
     
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    Statements like this undercut anything else you might say.
     
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    I would ask Suns fans first.
     
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    He is a 16 & ten guy. That is enough from that position considering he gets a block and almost a steal a game.

    Now looking at his advanced stats he has a .152 win share
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    comparing this to Nurk, he has better career numbers:

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    And the advanced stats of Ayton is also better than Nurks on a lower usage:

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    they only thing I see Nurk really excels at over Ayton is blocks, but Ayton shows better in almost everything else.

    He doesn't have to be Shaq to be part of a contending team.


    Sometimes this forum cracks me up!!! Lets trade all of our good players who could be part of a contending team.... so we can go into the lottery to build a contending team....
     
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    Suns fans have an emotional bias. Suns fans expected a hall-of-famer. Suns fans had to watch Ayton underachieving while Luka started his career as well as anyone ever.

    Regardless, however disappointed they might have been, however much better they think he should have been, to say he "wasn't good" in Phoenix is objectively, categorically untrue.
     
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    Suns fans are wannabe Lakers fans. They get drunk as hell, talk smack to the players on the court, and have 0 championships to back up their spoiled rotten attitudes towards the NBA.
     
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    It's interesting that Ayton free throw rate is only about half here of what it was in last couple years in PHX. And his turnovers went up here on less usage.I wonder if both could be a result of Chris Paul not passing to him anymore?
     
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    I don't need to reply to this. Others have said what I would have more effectively than I could. Just letting you know I saw it.
     
  19. robson

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    Yeah, maybe you guys know the game better.
     
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    Hot takes coming in real soon!
     

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