Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. riverman

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    I wondered who bought all those Trump bibles at 60 a pop!
     
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  3. UKRAINEFAN

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    This is sad. Ukraine doesn't usually put out false information.Ukrainian intelligence had made claims of many planes destroyed and damaged. They seem to be sticking by the claims of damage at Yeysk, not sure about Engels. It's really difficult for drones to get through the heavy defenses around military installations; they are just too slow. They need missiles and the authorization to use on russian soil.
    "The day before the attack, 29 jets were visible in parking areas across the facility. In the imagery obtained from Planet Labs, which was taken today, we can count the same number of aircraft, with no major damage being visible to them or to the base's infrastructure."

    https://www.twz.com/news-features/no-major-damage-seen-at-russian-air-base-after-drone-attack
     
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    Chair of Republican National Committee declared Ukraine an adversary of the United States.
     
  5. oldfisherman

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    For the last few weeks, finding a truthful report, by anyone, relating to any conflict around the world, has been impossible.

    Every world leader and spokesperson has lied so much, it appears all of them are running to be president of the USA.

    Heard one decent report last week from a leader. He called for retraint from both Ukraine and Russia. That report came from a leader of the Taliban.

    When the least crazy leader is a Taliban, you know the world has gone to shit.
     
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    Trump boasted he could end the war in a day. By demanding Ukraine cede large parts of its territory to Russia.

    Trump boasted he never needs to read because he knows better. Maybe someone could ask him how well that worked for Chamberlain.
    Neville Chamberlain has sometimes been characterized by right as some kind of liberal or pacifist. He was a hard core Conservative and admirer of Hitler.
     
  7. UKRAINEFAN

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    Ukraine desperatedly needs more air defense. The biggest power plant in the country was totally destroyed by four russian missiles. A lot of other energy infrastructure hit. russia trying to totally destroy their second largest city, Kharkiv. ISW points out that Ukraine does not have enough air defense to protect all her cities or the front lines. Ukraine has 2 1/2 Patriot systems while hundreds sit un-used all over the world. Ukraine leaders and NATO chief are basically begging for more.
     
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    Agree 1000%

    Also, Russia destroyed Ukraines air defense system guarding their front lines. Russian fighter bombers are running loose again. Causing a lot of damage to Ukraines front line units.
     
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  9. THE HCP

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    Whatever happened to all the blur and yellow lights and flags? At sporting events and hanging on city walls? Did mainstream america forget or just don’t care anymore? It’s kinda like mass shootings…..show outrage and support after each one and then move on?
     
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    Ukraine is becoming less useful to the military contractors making billions off the conflict as their defeat looms, so therefore the mainstream media outlets said contractors sponsor (all of them) don’t report on it as much, so therefore people don’t care about it as much.
     
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    Funny thing….,THIS is the FIRST time I have typed……mainstream media. I have a feeling you type it 20 times a day huh?
     
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    I don’t know what this means or what you are trying to say.
     
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    One of us is consumed constantly with those words and one isn’t. Honestly don’t even know what that means. But you post about it all the time. Must take up a lot of mental real estate.
     
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    Yet you’re trying to talk shit about it. If you can’t even grasp the concept of what a person is saying, then move on. Not everything has to be an argument. I wasn’t even being snarky towards you I was responding with my opinion.
     
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    Having facts or knowledge is not required to form an opinion. A little research on your part is long overdue.

    $70 billion of USA aid to Ukraine was obsolete equipment. The contractors made nothing on this.

    Of the equipment sent to Ukraine that contractors need to replace. It amounts to about 0.6% of our yearly military budget. About $5 billion a year, for 2 years.

    The USA has not begun to help Ukraine fight Russia, yet.
     
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    And replacing the out of date equipment with new equipment will provide for American jobs in manufacturing.

    This is all great for the US economy.
     
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    The lack of USA aid is costing lives and immense damage. Ukraine's largest power plant has been completely destroyed by russian missiles. We now know that defenders were able to shoot down seven of the eleven missiles but then they ran out of defensive missiles. They were helpless.
    Over night, russia attacked an apartment building with three missiles. 15 dead and over 60 wounded. Ukraine attacked military targets, hitting one air defense system on the front lines and in Crimea another plus a large ammo dump ("Zircon" hypersonic missiles?). Also hit a radar station deep in russia. The artillery shells from a Czech initiative have apparently not reached the front lines yet and so Ukraine is being out shot 10-1. Ukrainians are begging for aid from USA, Kharkiv mayor fears that his city , second largest in Ukraine, will soon become an Aleppo, unless they get air defense immediately..
     
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    It is time for the USA to save the day.

    Russia is aware of Ukraine's present weaknesses and shortages. There are signs Russia is preparing for a large scale attack to overwhelm what remains of Ukraine's capabilities.

    Ukraine needs help, lots of help, NOW!
     
  19. Hoopguru

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    Seems like it's inevitable that NATO will need to get involved more asap or Ukraine will run out of not only arms/ammo/ but fighters as well. It's obviously putins plan. It's either take on Putin full force or find a way to negotiate an end to the war.
     
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    Negotiating would be a mistake. Russians only understand force. They'll need to physically fail to have any hope of preventing more expansion attempts.
     
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