Ant should certainly be traded for a good pick or a young prospect at another position or both. No need keeping him at all.
Well..... yeah? It's all subjective about what a person considers to be lottery talent, but I was merely illustrating that just because someone didn't have a stellar rookie season doesn't mean that they're not a lottery talent. Some guys are projects and are still taken in the lottery and end up being stars. That's all I was saying.
oookay… you didn't see scoot slow down and improve his dribble drive, you didn't see him improve his three point shot? also a group improving, means cohesion. I put that on the coach getting the group in line/on the same page. i just think you are way off base on your assessment and dismissing glaringly clear things myself and others have pointed out. Group vs individual improvement? If anything, individual improvement can be had by a player working hard off the court and have nothing to do with coaching, but improving a group is all about the coach. I saw clear improvement as a group. Defensively mostly but also offensively. Scoot and Ayton started clicking offensively. Spacing improve significantly on both sides of the court. I don't even understand how you can say what you just said.
I also saw some nice chemistry/improvement develop with Scoot and Ayton late in the year, there were so may injuries (real or managed) and key guys like Shae injured that it was hard for any group cohesion to develop. I am not defending Billups, I have serious doubts about him, but he does not deserve all the blame
Agreed. I have no clue if he will be a good coach in all aspects but of the tangibles worthy of evaluation within the context of how the last couple of seasons have gone, its clear he can harness the players and get them to play hard for him. The rest cant be assessed in my opinion Nd those who thin kit can I think are either actively ignoring some aspects or simply aRe not good judges. He may suck at x’s and o’s. BUt he clearly has charisma and he can hire x/o assistant gurus. Kind of like college football coaching. Head coaches are generally recruiters and then hire their offensive and defensive gurus. Billups can run in that same vein so far as I can see.
Why do you keep arguing individual improvement when I said improved as a group? You think I'm way off base but have no idea what I'm talking about, but I don't care to explain because you seem to think Chauncey is perfect.
hyperbole? I never said hes perfect. I even said i have no clue yet if he will actually be a good coach. Furthermore i addressed the group thing with specific details regarding group play. You have dismissed all of the details i have presented… Reading only what you want to read here?? Don't care to explain because you seem to think that i think he is perfect? sorry man, that post is something like how a child would respond/ debate. completely dismiss the group portion i addressed and claim i only brought up individual play, which is blatantly false. “Im not explaining to you because you seem to think he is perfect….” Really??? Do i get an award for winning this debate? Lol.
Don't care to explain because I know how this goes with you. You already threatened me with your "respect" for my opinion, like I care... Their team defense has regressed. They don't seem to communicate well on that end. They looked all out of sorts defensively. There are tons of examples of the on-ball defender icing a Pick-n-roll while the big is dropping middle. And this is about guys that played all year, not Ashton Hagans or Moses Brown... They haven't gotten better at playing off each other except for Scoot feeding Ayton on Pick n Rolls. Outside of those two, nobody looks any more cohesive than they did at the start of the year. The offense was extremely stagnant, with the lowest percentage of their made FGs being assisted in the entire league. They don't play off each other at all offensively, it didn't improved, and that's backed up statistically.
who has played all season to be able to judge as you are? Do you recall the starting lineup compared to what we started the last month? Completely different. Threatened??????? Bro are you really gonna get pissy over me telling you my respect for your opinion is taking a hit when you talk to people around here on the reg like your opinion is the only valid one? Are you really gonna get pissy over one statement when i have supported you over the duration of your growth in basketball analytics and commentating? Sigh….I have stood up for you more than you will ever know about, but if you cant handle a bit of criticism, you are in the wrong business and maybe im helping to finance a no win situation. maybe i should look out/check myself to who i financially support…geez man. Lighten up.
"Lighten up" is rich coming from you, considering you're making a basketball debate fell personal. I state my opinion, you state yours. I wouldn't be debating you if my opinion is the "only one". But what do you think a debate it? Two people who think their opinions are the right ones. So lighten up. The losing "respect" and the "childish" comments are why I didn't want to continue arguing with you, since you seem to feel so strongly about Chauncey Billups. This isn't the only conversation... Go ahead and tell me what "business" I should be in, too. Don't support me if that's what it is.
Is that what upset you? You kept arguing individual skill things when I was talking about improvement as a group. So you clearly didn't understand what I was saying. You think I'm "way off base" and "glaringly dismissive of clear things you and others have pointed out" regarding Chauncey, and I think you're acting like Chauncey is perfect. I respond in kind. What about of that isn't debate? What part of that is akin to bringing up what business you or I work in or "respect"?
Do you disagree that analysts should have thick skin? do you disagree that someone can have a high level of respect for another's work ethic but lose a bit of respect based on the opinions being put out in that work ethic? Do you disagree that you often make statements as facts instead of making it clear its your opinion? Do you disagree that not responding with details and telling another you wont respond because they think someone is perfect, right after they said they have no clue how good of a coach he will turn out to be, is a childish way to post? You didnt debate me. You got offended due to me stating my respect of your basketball analysis is taking a hit. Instead of countering with some substance to back up your opinion, you responded with… “you seem to think he is perfect, so I'm not gonna respond.” You don't see how that comes off as a childish post?
I disagree that you should tell me what it takes to do what I've already done. I think it's ridiculous to start bringing up "respect" in a basketball debate. But if you start throwing around the "childish" and my job, you're making it personal. Do you think "you seem to think Chauncey is perfect" is personal?
