Player Contributions for the Season

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  1. GrandpaBlaze

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    Who did what this year (raw numbers only, no percentages, etc.)

    Points:
    1. Grant - 1,132
    2. Simons - 1,039
    3. Ayton - 920
    4. Henderson - 868
    5. Walker - 638
    6. Reath - 617
    7. Brogdon - 613
    8. Camara - 527
    9. Sharpe - 510
    10. Banton - 501
    11. Murray - 376
    12. Thybulle - 354
    13. Rupert - 155
    14. Mays - 133
    15. Hagans - 80
    16. Brown - 75
    17. Minaya - 61
    18. Williams III - 41
    19. Badi - 34
    20. Wainright - 20
    21. Moore - 18
    22. Bouyea - 10

    Rebounds:
    1. Ayton - 609
    2. Walker 508
    3. Camara - 343
    4. Reath - 249
    5. Murray - 224
    6. Henderson - 194
    7. Grant - 191 (doesn't say a lot about a starting PF)
    8. Simons - 167
    9. Sharpe - 160
    10. Brogdon - 148
    11. Banton - 143
    12. Thybulle - 136
    13. Rupert - 92
    14. Brown - 85
    15. Minaya - 56
    16. Badji - 51
    17. Hagans - 45
    18. Williams III - 38
    19. Mays - 37
    20. Bouyea - 10
    21. Wainright - 9
    22. Moore - 8

    Assists:
    1. Henderson - 336
    2. Simons - 255
    3. Brogdon - 214
    4. Grant - 153
    5. Banton - 105
    6. Sharpe - 94
    7. Ayton & Thybulle - 90
    9. Camara - 87
    10. Murray - 80
    11. Mays - 75
    12. Walker - 72
    13. Reath - 66
    14. Rupert - 62
    15. Hagans - 54
    16. Minaya - 21
    17. Badji - 13
    18. Bouyea - 8
    19. Brown - 7
    20. Williams III & Moore - 5

    Steals:
    1. Thybulle - 113
    2. Camara - 65
    3. Ayton - 57
    4. Murray - 53
    5. Henderson - 48
    6. Grant - 45
    7. Walker - 42
    8. Reath - 31
    9. Sharpe & Banton - 28
    11. Brogdon - 27
    12. Simons - 23
    13. Mays - 14
    14. Rupert - 12
    15. Hagans - 11
    16. Minaya - 9
    17. Williams III - 7
    18. Brown - 5
    19. Badji - 3
    20. Wainright & Moore - 2

    Blocks:
    1. Thybulle - 49
    2. Ayton - 42
    3. Reath - 38
    4. Grant - 35
    5. Camara - 33
    6. Walker - 22
    7. Murray - 21
    8. Badji - 20
    9. Banton - 17
    10. Henderson - 13
    11. Sharpe - 12
    12. Minaya - 10
    13. Brogdon & Hagans - 8
    15. Brown & Williams III - 7
    17. Simons - 5
    18. Rupert & Mays - 3
    20. Wainright - 2

    Turnovers:
    1. Henderson - 212
    2. Simons - 126
    3. Grant - 117
    4. Ayton - 99
    5. Camara - 84
    6. Sharpe - 72
    7. Banton - 67
    8. Walker - 66
    9. Brogdon - 60
    10. Murray - 54
    11. Reath - 52
    12. Thybulle - 39
    13. Rupert - 31
    14. Hagans - 30
    15. Mays - 18
    16. Badji - 15
    17. Brown - 11
    18. Minaya - 9
    19. Bouyea - 8
    20. Williams III - 7
    21. Moore - 3
    22. Wainright - 1
     
  2. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Contribution Points (Pts+Reb+Ast*1.5+Blk*1.5+Stl*2-TOV*2)
    1. Ayton - 1641
    2. Grant - 1460
    3. Simons - 1390
    4. Henderson - 1257.5
    5. Walker - 1237.5
    6. Brogdon - 1028
    7. Camara - 1014
    8. Reath - 986.5
    9. Thybulle - 844.5
    10. Banton - 753.5
    11. Murray - 747.5
    12. Sharpe - 741
    13. Rupert - 306.5
    14. Mays - 279
    15. Hagans - 181.5
    16. Brown - 170
    17. Minaya - 163.5
    18. Badji - 110.5
    19. Williams - 97
    20. Wainright - 32.5
    21. Moore - 31.5
    22. Bouyea - 16
     
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    1. Ayton - 0.920
    2. Brogdon - 0.917
    3. Simons - 0.879
    4. Banton - 0.860
    5. Brown - 0.850
    6. Williams - 0.815
    7. Reath - 0.813
    8. Grant - 0.798
    9. Moore - 0.788
    10. Mays - 0.784
    11. Walker - 0.728
    12. Henderson - 0.712
    13. Wainright - 0.707
    14. Sharpe - 0.700
    15. Camara - 0.583
    16. Hagans - 0.574
    17. Thybulle - 0.568
    18. Murray - 0.555
    19. Badji - 0.489
    20. Rupert - 0.484
    21. Minaya - 0.429
    22. Bouyea - 0.281
     
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    Now THAT'S fast service!
    Interesting that that's bad for Walker and good for Brown. Basically Brogdon and Ayton are solid players and the rest of our roster is pretty much trash. (Surprising how trash Camara is. Also that Banton is at 4 shows how this measure completely discounts actual contribution to the game...)
     
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    Ayton is the future. By far the best piece. The best player on a contender? Likely not but maybe the second best player on a really nice unit. Need to get a real season from Shaedon.

    Thybulle is the defender on the team.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Thanks Grams/Platy. What sticks out to me is Banton's numbers in his fewer games with us. Cronin needs a huge fucking attaboy for that get.
     
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    my kind of thread!

    offensive rating:

    (team rating 108.3)

    Malcolm Brogdon 120
    Duop Reath 116
    Deandre Ayton 115
    Jabari Walker 115
    Jerami Grant 113
    Anfernee Simons 113
    Matisse Thybulle 111
    Toumani Camara 110
    Shaedon Sharpe 105
    Dalano Banton 103
    Kris Murray 103
    Justin Minaya 100
    Rayan Rupert 98
    Scoot Henderson 97

    defensive rating:

    (team rating 117.5)

    Matisse Thybulle 114
    Deandre Ayton 114
    Jabari Walker 116
    Dalano Banton 117
    Toumani Camara 117
    Duop Reath 117
    Kris Murray 118
    Shaedon Sharpe 119
    Scoot Henderson 120
    Rayan Rupert 120
    Justin Minaya 120
    Jerami Grant 120
    Malcolm Brogdon 120
    Anfernee Simons 121

    PER:

    Deandre Ayton 18.9
    Malcolm Brogdon 17.0
    Anfernee Simons 15.9
    Jerami Grant 15.4
    Duop Reath 15.1
    Dalano Banton 14.0
    Jabari Walker 13.0
    Shaedon Sharpe 11.4
    Toumani Camara 10.6
    Matisse Thybulle 10.4
    Scoot Henderson 9.5
    Kris Murray 9.0
    Rayan Rupert 5.8

    TS%:

    (team mark .539 - 30th)

    Deandre Ayton .587
    Jerami Grant .573
    Duop Reath .571
    Anfernee Simons .568
    Malcolm Brogdon .560
    Toumani Camara .547
    Jabari Walker .546
    Matisse Thybulle .537
    Shaedon Sharpe .524
    Dalano Banton .508
    Scoot Henderson .489
    Kris Murray .481
    Rayan Rupert .451

    FT Rate:

    (team mark .228)

    Jerami Grant .367
    Jabari Walker .336
    Shaedon Sharpe .274
    Scoot Henderson .256
    Malcolm Brogdon .234
    Toumani Camara .226
    Dalano Banton .223
    Anfernee Simons .213
    Duop Reath .186
    Rayan Rupert .155
    Kris Murray .153
    Justin Minaya .122
    Deandre Ayton .105
    Matisse Thybulle .091

    winshares/48:

    Malcolm Brogdon .111
    Deandre Ayton .106
    Duop Reath .095
    Jabari Walker .083
    Matisse Thybulle .072
    Jerami Grant .071
    Anfernee Simons .068
    Toumani Camara .055
    Kris Murray .024
    Shaedon Sharpe .022
    Dalano Banton .016
    Rayan Rupert -0.009
    Scoot Henderson -0.045

    BPM:

    Malcolm Brogdon 2.0
    Matisse Thybulle 0.6
    Deandre Ayton 0.3
    Anfernee Simons 0.2
    Jerami Grant -0.1
    Dalano Banton -0.8
    Duop Reath -0.9
    Shaedon Sharpe -2.8
    Toumani Camara -3.1
    Jabari Walker -3.3
    Kris Murray -3.6
    Scoot Henderson -5.8
    Rayan Rupert -6.7

    generally, these 'advanced metrics' tend to favor and reward big men while punishing perimeter players. I'm assuming because of rebounding numbers and shooting efficiency, but I'm not sure.

    using the off/def ratings as an individual gauge is pretty dubious. My thinking is that the best use of that gauge is to compare the player mark to the team mark

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    On/Off - Offensive rating vs Defensive rating:

    Brogdon +8.1
    Camara +7.9
    Murray +4.6
    Thybulle +3.0
    Reath +1.5
    Ayton +1.2
    Grant -0.6
    Rupert -1.2
    Simons -1.6
    Sharpe -1.8
    Walker -2.5
    Scoot -5.2
    Banton -6.3

    2-Man Combo Net Points:

    D. Ayton | T. Camara -3.1
    M. Brogdon | J. Grant -3.5
    T. Camara | J. Grant -4.6
    D. Ayton | A. Simons -4.6
    M. Thybulle | J. Walker -5.5
    D. Ayton | M. Thybulle -5.6
    S. Henderson | M. Thybulle -7.1
    T. Camara | A. Simons -8.0
    A. Simons | M. Thybulle -8.4
    D. Ayton | J. Grant -9.0
    J. Grant | M. Thybulle -9.0
    J. Grant | S. Sharpe -10.9
    D. Ayton | S. Henderson -11.2
    T. Camara | S. Henderson -12.1
    J. Grant | A. Simons -12.3
    S. Henderson | J. Walker -13.6
    S. Henderson | D. Reath -14.1
    D. Ayton | J. Walker -17.0
    J. Grant | S. Henderson -17.2
    S. Henderson | A. Simons -20.4

    there might be some surprises in that ranking. The least surprising is that Scoot/Ant together was the worst. That certainly matched the eyeball test; oil and water. And it's probably not that surprising that Grant/Ant was as bad a combo as it was because often, when they were on the floor together, it devolved to a my-turn-your-turn-one-on-one jamboree. I was surprised to see the Ayton/Walker combo rate so poorly; not sure why. Maybe their comfort zones are too overlapping

    pretty clearly, Brogdon was the best statistically and most impactful Blazer player with Ayton coming in a fairly close 2nd. I think a big part of that was that when Brogdon was on the floor, the Blazers were just more organized
     
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    there were only 22 different Blazers this year, compared to 24 & 27 in previous seasons. Cronin tapped the brakes a bit while recalibrating talent levels.
     
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    i think Jock Landale should be on this list. Letting a perennial backup Center roll into Portland and easily score a season high 20. A defensive gameplan that says "don't guard this guy", tells me Jock is a 6th Blazer.
     
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    Yeah I have felt that way for a while. I don’t think I want him traded.
     
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    Yeah keep Deandre and the first and second year players... trade everyone else and lets build a team that's young, exciting and presses hard on both ends.
     
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    here's my case for letting Jock be a Blazer

    crucial loss, ping pongy ponglicious

     

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