Plausible destinations for our vets?

Especially since Lebron and AD are simply killing it on team USA. As a Laker fan you dont want the GM to waste this window.

 

Unwillingness? Grant has never been a strong rebounder his whole career. But besides that, he does many great things.

About the team rebounding, you will just pull anything out of your hat and put a negative spin on things. That point you said makes no sense lol

do you ever say anything positive in here? Lol

 

More missed shots = more opportunities for rebounds.

Not sure why that confuses you.

There is nothing positive about being a tall player who's bad at rebounding the ball or being incredibly athletic and a very bad defender.

Defense and rebounding win championships because they give you more opportunities to score than the other team.

I'm not in here to play make believe.

 

More missed shots are not because of those two bro, what are you smoking? Grant was 45% and 40% from 3. Ant was 43% and %39.....you know who was way worse and contributed to those misses you want to talk about?

Scoot at 38% and 32% from 3. Sharpe was 40% and 33%, Sharpe regression in FG%

Grant is a horrble defender? what? come on bro, you the most negative person on this person by a far mile. And you don't make any sense most the time

 

This...

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/total-rebounds-per-game

 

Largely? He played 54 of the 82 games.
No doubt he is not a good rebounder. Reminds me of Harkless but with a good 3 pt shot.
Grant is a 6'6.5" (barefoot) 210 SF. He needs to do better, but I don't expect that much more.

 

Nobody claimed more missed shots were because of Grant or Ant. That is a point that could possibly be made, but it wasn't.

Nobody said Grant is a horrible defender. I said he's a horrible Ant is a horrible defender.

Nothing makes sense to you because you aren't having an actual conversation, but blindly lashing out at those you disagree with.

 

IIRC, in the new CBA, in an extend and trade the player is limited to 120% of his previous salary. In Markkanen's case that would mean his max starting salary in an E&T would about 20.8M. Plus, he'd be limited to 5% raises instead of the standard. Obviously, he's not going to sign something like that

his expiring salary is 18M. If he extended with Utah (without a trade), the first year max would be 140% of that amount. That's only 25M. His best bet is to get traded to a team that really wants him, then become UFA and use Bird Rights to sign a new deal. It would likely start at 40M or more. If he becomes UFA with Utah, he'd be dealing with Danny Ainge and Ainge plays hardball with free agents like him. It's doubtful any team would have 40M in cap-space and want to spend it on him

maybe I'm missing something in the CBA but it looks like Markkanen is one of those players an extension won't work for because of the 120%/140% limits and his current budget contract

edit: sorry, I hadn't caught up to the current argument about rebounding...time warp

 

So you said Grant is horrible in a nutshell? Lol

You push a narrative on here 24/7, so it’s only natural for others to counterpoint everything you said every week in here.

maybe if you dialed it down a little bit, but most the time I’m coming across a negative comment from you when I’m scrolling through this page to read some things. Or you come to comment on someone’s thoughts so put your spin on it why we should do this and that

 

Thank you

 

I don't understand - are they saying that Ayton would be nice but it's impossible? If it were possible, would maybe the Kings be a third team? Does anyone want Randle? He's turned his career around under Thibs hasn't he?

 

You've counter painted nothing I have said and are making up your own things to argue against.

I said Grant is a horrible rebounder, anr you've agreed to that.

I'm not sure what else you're blathering about...

 

Speaking of Thybulle, starting the two of them together was a key problem. Thybulle is not a forward.

 

so then, If you go to bbref and look at Portland's on/of last season and see how the Blazers rebounded with a player on the floor vs off the floor, it was:

Murray +3.3
Camara +2.9
Ayton +1.0
Walker +0.6
Simons +0.1
Reath 0.0
Brogdon -0.2
Scoot -2.0
Sharpe -2.7
Grant -3.1
Thybulle -3.7

obviously, a lot of factors in those numbers. Whoever played with Ayton over those last 25 games would have better rebounding numbers, and Grant wasn't playing then

I think part of good defensive rebounding is solid defensive rotations and the Blazers were bad at that

 

You since edited it, since at first you said Grant is horrible, must have been a typo that didn't include rebounder.

Yes he is not the best rebounder for sure...either was Aldridge for large portions of his career btw...Grant was also a SF for many of his early years at times. And that's probably his best position imo. but that still doesn't outweigh all the other parts of Grant's game that is a big positive is mainly my point. I look at the big picture, you harp on one or two negatives to try to drive home your point..

I'm sure ill come around to some of your comments again next week lol..

 

No, I have not edited that. Nice try. You misread it in your emotional ferver.

 

I also don't expect more from him. That's why we need to trade him rather than trying to build with him.