What will it take for Chauncey to get fired?

It was a tanking year - judging Chauncey like this at this point is reaching near gas lighting. He could be an amazing coach, as Scoot could be an amazing pg.

They’re both obviously qualified and still new to it. Bleh

 

Every year with Chauncey is a tanking year.

 

So far that's been the mandate from the front office.

 

That list is trash.

 

I’ll say it again….. swap coaches with Denver and see what happens. Nada changes……

 

Right. But that doesn't mean Billups is a good coach. Also doesn't mean he's bad. But I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe he's a good coach.

 

So you think if Golden State had stuck with Mark Jackson they'd have exactly the same number of championships? So you must think it's completely random who gets to coach and who doesn't. You might as well pick somebody off the street.

 

I think he is saying a good coach is necessary, but not sufficient to win, to put it in genetic speak.

 

Yep.
Luke Walton had the best season ever for an NBA coach…… remember that.

 

Do I think Chauncey is a good coach? No. Do I think our shitty record is his fault? No.

Hiring the ghost of Jack Ramsey wouldn’t improve this team enough to matter at this point

 

Yeah, bumping this thread right now is about as asinine as it gets. I get it that Chauncey hasn't impressed any of us at all in his overall coaching but it's three weeks into September. Why the fuck would this be the time to talk about what it will take for Chauncey to get fired?

The guy hasn't had one roster built to win. He started with an injured Dame who was in a starting lineup with CJ and Norm. By the trade deadline of that season the team had been torn down around Dame, who was out indefinitely after surgery early in that season. We picked up Jerami that off season and drafted Shae. Joe said going into that season that we had a roster that was definitely not where he wanted it and that he would be looking to make moves to improve around Dame at the trade deadline... instead he again further stripped the team of talent and tanked. We picked up Scoot and Kris in the draft and Dame demanded a trade. We did well with the Dame return but for whatever reason didn't complete the tear down for the rebuild and we still haven't but we also aren't close to where we need to be to field a competitive roster for Chauncey to try and win with.

I don't know what the fuck Joe is doing but the one thing he has not done as GM is give Chauncey a roster that makes sense, not even for one game of Chauncey's head coaching career. I, like a lot of you, think that Chauncey is lacking in some areas that would make him a good or great head coach but I don't know that for sure because not one roster that Joe has put together for him has made any sense.

 

I disagree. An experienced coach, with a structured system, who demands winning, would raise us to, oh, about .400 the first year, .450-.500 the second year. We have the talent. Add coaching and 2 years experience to the young guys, and there's a contender.

That doesn't mean we should do that right now. It appears that Cronin's strategy is to start the above a year from now.

 

All I want from our coach at this point is building good habits and teaching the young players. Look at San Antonio the past few years - they've been completely dreadful the first half of the season but by the end of the season they've been genuinely competitive, despite having, if anything, less talent and younger players than ours.

I think Chauncey has the right ideas about how a team should play (AS a team - it's not all isolation) but I just don't think he has either the experience of a veteran coach or the genuine inventiveness of coaches like Kerr (when he started), Spoelstra (ditto) or Mazzulla.

 

All he did was run Kerr's system. For, what? a month? Aren't you the guy who harps on about drawing conclusions from small sample sizes? How'd he do when he was hired by Sacramento?

 

You actually think we have the talent to be a contender right now?

 

Aren't you English or something? You can't detect sarcasm?

 

Well, San Antonio the past few years fully committed to their rebuild... unlike us who still have a vet in Jerami that could start on a lot of contenders and would be the sixth man on the rest. Seriously everything you point to when trying to find measurable reasons Chauncey is bad just point back to Joe fucking shit up.

That's not me saying that Chauncey is good but until Joe actually gives him a roster that makes sense and asks Chauncey to start trying to make that roster get better and better throughout the season instead of telling him to sit more and more guys as the season goes on, we can't know for sure that Chauncey is a bad coach.

 

and Doc Rivers as better than Pat Riley. I looked for Adelman and Jack Ramsey; didn't see their names but I didn't look closely

RAPM seems like a weird gauge to use