Oregon State Beavers 2023 now with 2024 stuff!

I respect that. I’m the same way with my Ducks. A lot of memories with my dad and grandpa watching games. Only time I don’t root for the Beavs is when they play us. I’ll keep the duck talk for the duck thread. But please feel free to come over and talk Beavs with us.

 

Love this. I was really excited about the Beavs until the PAC folded.

A part of me hopes that they can build the PAC back up and the Ducks and the rest of the PAC10 can find their way back into it.

 

So the Pac is considering adding Grand Canyon University?

I dont know much about them, but it's in Phoenix with 100k students. No football program.

 

I like the "Pac-X" moniker. That might catch on nicely.

 

The insecurities are strong in this Ducks crowd.....

 

It's quite ironic that you live in a place many people would consider a shithole but you spend a decent amount of time on here defending, yet can't see how it's the same in other parts of the country that you didn't grow up in. I didn't grow up here but there is a lot of beauty and things to like about it. My guess from being on the OT side of the forum is that your disdain for Texas is more about the politics, but life is about so much more than that.

 

I've always liked just The PAC.

 

The only people that think Portland is a shithole are people who have no clue what Portland really is like.
But yeah that kinda makes your point. I really liked Oklahoma’s back yard. It’s got some decent areas.

 

it's better than Pac-?, even though, at the moment, Pac-? seems more appropriate

 

obviously, a basketball add

they have only had a program for 11 years. They won the Wac title last season with a 30-5 record; lost in the 2nd round of March Madness

 

More and more rumblings of private equity coming in and helping out the Pac-Whatever with a 20% stake in future profits. Sounds like the hope is to get a TV deal around 20m instead of the 12-15 they are currently projecting. Obviously that's offset with what they have to give back to the PE firm but might also make it easier to keep schools around and to add if there is some additional backing to the conference. Just not sure how much I like the idea of Shark Tank coming to college sports.

 

I'm curious...where is it you're seeing these rumors?

 

Trolling around on twitter, a couple of people who have been a little more right than wrong but take it all with a grain of salt. As Sly said PE has been trying to get into the B12 for a while and Limo Larry was making this effort back in 2018 for the P12 but the LA schools squashed it pretty quickly.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...to-1-billion-for-as-much-as-20-of-conference/

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/o...loring-taking-on-private-equity-partners.html

 

well, one was about the Big-12 and the Pac-12 story was from 2019 when the league was actually a Pac-12 with USC, Oregon, Washington as members

I'm really having a hard time understanding how this all would work.

so, a PE firm buys a percentage of a conference. the question I have is what do they own? Would they own any real assets like facilities and land? Would they own a percentage of the media deal? Would they own broadcast rights? Concession and parking revenue?

what if it's the new Pac-X that goes into partnership with a PE firm. Imagine it. OSU would be going into a partnership with a hedge fund. How would that work? I'd assume, since OSU is a public university that the President and the board of trustees would have to sign off on it. So would the Oregon State Board of Higher Education; and the governor's office. The legal ramifications would likely be substantial and the process would not be quick. And the same would be true for the other public universities. WSU and their governing bodies. San Diego State and the California board of higher ed. Boise St and Idaho. Utah St. and the state of Utah. etc.

I'm not saying all those obstacles can't be overcome but it sure seems like there are a bazillion ways the effort could fail

 

They just joined the WCC, will begin next season. This is crazy!

 

I would go off and call you a bunch of names normally, but this is actually a pretty good post.

 

You know there is one thing some people might be looking past and that is Name Recognition. The Pac-X does have some of it and it might grow with all of this. That could create some possibilities with recruiting and the teams that become member of the new Pac-X could become much better teams that might even start to compete at a much higher level. Good football and good games in general will create TV revenue. Look at what Sanders has done for Colorado. There is no way Colorado would be considered a huge TV market but every week we see one of their games.

 

Boulder is only 25 miles from Denver. Pretty sure Colorado gets credit for being in the Denver media market