OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by ABM, Jun 29, 2021.

  1. PCmor7

    PCmor7 Generational Poster

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2014
    Messages:
    7,076
    Likes Received:
    10,499
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Saying this for years
    Isn't it usually the people that are preoccupied with something that are guilty of it?
     
  2. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    119,897
    Likes Received:
    119,137
    Trophy Points:
    115
  3. Everything Beagle

    Everything Beagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2023
    Messages:
    2,142
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It changes nothing but it’s nice to get a chuckle from the Leopard Eating Faces voters.
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  4. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    119,897
    Likes Received:
    119,137
    Trophy Points:
    115
  5. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    19,833
    Likes Received:
    25,619
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Republicans are spending $65 million on anti trans election ads, despite trans issues not being much of a factor for most voters.
    Of course, no one thought about Haitian cat eaters or FEMA confiscating homes until the Republican candidates made it up.
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  6. Everything Beagle

    Everything Beagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2023
    Messages:
    2,142
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    At this it might be more about setting up voter intimidation targets than actually campaigning.
     
  7. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    7,030
    Likes Received:
    14,258
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That goes without saying.....
     
  8. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    19,833
    Likes Received:
    25,619
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump pledged to ban all trans athletes. He told a lie (big shock I know) about a trans athlete on San Jose State women's volleyball team, a sport I am sure he never watched. He lied that spiked the ball so hard it hit an opposing player in the head, causing serious injury. The fact, player was hit in shoulder, knocked down, got right back up and finished the set. Being hit with spiked ball happens frequently in both men's and women's volleyball.
    All he has to run on is fear and hate.
     
  9. Everything Beagle

    Everything Beagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2023
    Messages:
    2,142
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    For anyone who still thinks the trans athlete thing is actually about sports:
    IMG_3747.jpeg

    Sorry for the image; I don’t think I can embed bluesky links here.
     
    Tyrant of Ants and SlyPokerDog like this.
  10. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    119,897
    Likes Received:
    119,137
    Trophy Points:
    115
    Isn't that also the reason why some are against IVF?
     
    Everything Beagle likes this.
  11. Everything Beagle

    Everything Beagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2023
    Messages:
    2,142
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ultimately it’s all eugenics and “purity of the genes” horseshit
     
  12. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    33,346
    Likes Received:
    23,829
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    You misspelled 'defecate'.

    barfo
     
  13. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    119,897
    Likes Received:
    119,137
    Trophy Points:
    115
     
  14. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    119,897
    Likes Received:
    119,137
    Trophy Points:
    115
  15. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    43,483
    Likes Received:
    31,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    singer songwriter
    Location:
    Washington
    They sell their supplies on eBay.
     
    Phatguysrule and SlyPokerDog like this.
  16. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    19,833
    Likes Received:
    25,619
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Idaho passed a law requiring consent of parent or legal guardian for a minor to get any health care. The parent or guardian must be given full information, no confidentiality. They claim it was necessary to prevent all those millions of trans kids from getting gender care without their parents knowing.

    A New York Times article points out real life consequences.

    A pregnant patient arrived in emergency room with cramps and bleeding. Normally treated first thing regardless of insurance. But the patient was 13, brought in by great aunt. Her mother is homeless, no location known. Her grandmother is legal guardian. She was finally located in prison. She gave permission and after two hour delay the girl received treatment. Fortunately she was OK. She was told to come back in two weeks for follow up. Her incarcerated grandmother had to give consent.

    Rape crisis counselors report teens are refusing rape kits or emergency medical care because they don't want their parents to know they were raped. Or because parent was rapist. Youth counselors report teens leaving mental health services because the law requires parents be given full information about their counseling even if parents are abusing the child. School say they can't even clean and bandage scraped knees before locating a parent for consent.

    But at least those millions of trans kids don't get treatment without patental consent.

    The 13 year old eventually delivered a healthy child. All her prenatal and follow up care required consent of incarcerated grandmother until great aunt finally became guardian. But she can make health care decisions for her infant.
     
  17. PCmor7

    PCmor7 Generational Poster

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2014
    Messages:
    7,076
    Likes Received:
    10,499
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Saying this for years
  18. beast blazer

    beast blazer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2018
    Messages:
    4,881
    Likes Received:
    3,067
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There are thousands of kids like him. Yet the legacy media, which is far-left, won't discuss this reality.

    The left has decided to stake their claim on this hill and will mindlessly defend it.

    You're deranged if you support this.
    upload_2024-10-24_21-13-31.jpeg
     
    CJ_is_Gone likes this.
  19. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    119,897
    Likes Received:
    119,137
    Trophy Points:
    115
    Years after her trans child, 9, made history as the pink-haired National Geographic cover model, mom Debi Jackson looks back: 'We were at a great place in our country'
    "We know that it did some really positive things and made a huge difference in so many people's lives," she says of the cover.

    It was just six years ago when pink-haired, earnest-faced 9-year-old Avery Jackson made history by becoming the first transgender person to grace the cover of National Geographic magazine — not only with the now-iconic photo, but a powerful quote: "The best thing about being a girl is, now I don't have to pretend to be a boy."

    But in many ways, the cover feels like it's from a much more distant time.

    Avery's participation in that special "Gender Revolution" issue inspired a range of reactions, from letters of heartfelt thanks to a frightening doxxing incident for the family. But today's national rhetoric — which has both given rise to and been fueled by the anti-trans bills proposed in 44 states in just 2023 alone (with 11 passing laws) — is "a lot scarier now," says Avery’s mom, Debi Jackson.



    Debi spoke with Yahoo Life on the heels of International Transgender Day of Visibility — and in the midst of a push in her own state of Missouri to ban gender-affirming care for trans youth — to look back at that issue, recently shared by National Geographic on Instagram.

    The shoot, by photographer Robin Hammond, took place in the family's Kansas City, Mo., home, and "was fun," recalls Debi, who remembers everyone "moving from room to room and window to window to try to catch just the right light," as it was stormy outside, and the magazine's photographers, according to Debi, only wanted to use natural light. "They had Nerf guns out and, in between takes… they were having a Nerf battle and having a great time," she says. "Robin was wonderful to work with — absolutely great at working with kids."

    Hammond and Debi have remained friends and still email each other from time to time. They also have each other's backs when necessary on social media, like recently when Hammond was pilloried by trolls after being tagged in the magazine's reminiscing post.

    "Of course, I wish we didn't live in the world where one would receive hateful and threatening messages for posting an image of a trans kid on social media," Hammond tells Yahoo Life. "But those comments have zero impact on me other than reminding me how much work there is to do for us to reach a place where we can respect people who are different to ourselves."



    Hammond remembers Avery, now 15 (and opting to not take part in this story), being "a confident 9-year-old" who "made fun of me for my [New Zealand] accent." Now, looking back, he adds, "I feel extremely privileged to have made that photo," noting that it helped others validate themselves, and has "meant a lot" to queer folks around the world.

    "One young gay man from Colombia I was talking to last week told me how he purchased a copy and carried it with him for months. He used it to help his own family understand who he was and the community he was part of," Hammond says, adding that still, years later, he regularly hears such stories about the importance of seeing Avery on the cover. "That is an extremely powerful thing for a young person who may feel alone in their experience. Being a part of that is what has affected me most and made this so gratifying."

    How the cover photo came to be
    Debi had already become an activist who had been in the public eye for several years, starting with a 2014 LGBTQ-advocacy speech supporting Avery, in which the mom identified as a "conservative, Southern Baptist, Republican from Alabama," prompting Avery's own video for a separate campaign. That's how National Geographic editors wound up reaching out to the family.

    She says she didn't know that Avery's photo had been chosen for the subscribers cover (a different image appeared on newsstands) until she received a call from the magazine as it went to press in late 2016.



    "I was actually happy that it was going to be on the subscriber version because my family, who was not supportive, was not a subscriber, and I was like, 'They're never going to know, because they won't see it,'" Debi recalls. "Unbeknownst to me, my grandmother was a subscriber and saw it and called my parents and was like, 'Oh my gosh, you didn't tell me, this is amazing news! Look, how beautiful Avery is!" That, followed by the avalanche of national media coverage, is how Debi's parents and siblings found out about the cover. They remain unsupportive.

    "We haven't spoken in the years since that," she says. "My grandmother was amazing and till the day she passed away, kept trying to work on the rest of the family to get them to be accepting." But, adds Debi, "That's what chosen families are for."

    She remembers agreeing to let Avery take part in the issue — and Avery wanting to — because "we were at a great place in our country," she says.

    "We had had four years of the Obama administration. We had seen so many strides — trans people were mentioned in speeches by the attorney general, they were welcomed and supported through the Department of Education and everyone fully was expecting Hillary [Clinton] to win that election," she continues. "So, we knew the issue would be coming out right before we headed into yet another super-affirming administration, and it seemed like serendipity, and it was actually really exciting. Like, wow, this is going to push our progress even further. The anxiety [around the cover photo] was about my own personal family, but not for the rest of the world. We thought: 'This is what's needed. This is going to be so important.'"



    As a reminder of the context back then, Debi says, the cover photo "was a very big deal for the trans community as a whole, worldwide, to have that kind of visibility. We had had Laverne Cox on Time magazineJanet Mock had a book out … my video was out there, and a couple of other parents had some videos that went viral. But there still wasn't a huge emphasis on transness and trans kids at that point in time … So, there was this great clamor of, 'Wow, this is representation, there's a whole issue about this!'" Soon after, the related documentary that Katie Couric made came out, "and there really was a moment of visibility and it seemed so positive. People were hungry to learn about it."

    Reactions to the cover
    Avery "thought it was pretty cool," even without fully understanding, at 9, the international impact of the magazine. In fact, recalls Debi, the cover star declared, "'It's not my cover, it's the trans people's cover. That's for everyone.' And I think that's exemplary … Avery's been out there publicly, but it was never an 'I want to be the face of the trans community,' it was, 'I'm proud of who I am. I have this great, supportive family and I wish every kid had it. So, I want other people to know: It's OK to love your kid.'"

    Debi thought the image "nailed it," and "was just full of sass and personality," although she was even more struck by seeing her child's quote, which Avery had told Hammond when she was out of the room.

    "I didn't know until I read it on the cover, and was like, oh my gosh, that's so incredible — and it resonated with so many people," she says. "They would send me messages, like, 'I've been trying to explain how I feel for 50 years — and your kid's just said it in one sentence." Although she's saved multiple versions of the magazine that they "intend to get framed at some point," for now what they've got on display at home is a portrait painted from the photo, gifted to them through the mail by a fan whose name they do not know.



    The note, Debi recalls, just said something along the lines of, "You don't know me, I'm a trans woman. Painting was one of my outlets so I didn't have to think about gender and your child has inspired me … I'm transitioning because of [Avery]."

    Now, all these years later, Avery's response to the photo and its impact — specifically to being doxxed, targeted by hate and being cut off by extended family — has become more complex. It even made Avery worried about adopting they/them pronouns about a year ago, in the midst of "course correcting" and figuring out their identity is nonbinary.

    Debi recalls them worrying, "Is that going to hurt other trans kids? Because people are not going to want to believe them?" but she assured them that such openness could only help.

    Still, the years of "hateful backlash" after the magazine cover "caused them to be kind of angry at the exposure and what had happened. They were filled with all kinds stress and anxiety over that," Debi says.



    The vicious sentiments, she believes, have led to what she refers to as "faux outrage," noting that when the cover photo was so recently shared, "people who were not paying attention even two years ago have now been primed to be angry and full of hate … But the sun has still risen and set every single day. The world has been going along just fine until this amplification of rage and hate and rhetoric."

    Because of that, and the unending stream of anti-trans legislation around the country, including right in Missouri, Avery has taken a step back from public life; Debi and her husband, meanwhile, have been testifying before the state legislature against the proposed anti-trans bill.

    Still, Debi says, Avery does not regret that cover, and is proud of what it did.

    "We have all the letters from people, we have the portrait hanging here. We know that it did some really positive things and made a huge difference in so many people's lives," she says. "And they're happy about that. They're happy to have been part of that."

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/national-geographic-transgender-child-cover-model-mom-161141879.html
     
  20. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    119,897
    Likes Received:
    119,137
    Trophy Points:
    115
    'They're just tired of it': Family with trans teen moving from Missouri amid anti-LGBTQ laws
    Sixteen-year-old Avery Jackson does not feel safe in their home anymore. Their mother said they are all ready for a fresh start.


    ANSAS CITY, Mo. —
    An area family said they are fed up with threats and attacks against their transgender teenager. So, they’re leaving town and the state of Missouri.

    This comes as the Human Rights Campaign declared a state of emergency for LGBTQ+ people in the U.S. More than 75 anti-LGBTQ bills have been signed into law in states across the country. Two of them were signed in Missouri.

    The Jackson family has always lived in Missouri. They have roots in Kansas City and their family lives close by. But they said it’s time to move somewhere that their trans teen can thrive.

    For almost a decade, Debi Jackson has been advocating for transgender youth. Debi is a mother of a trans teen.

    "The first few years, we honestly thought, like so many others, that visibility was the key to change,” Debi Jackson said. “That if people just saw our kids, if they saw trans people, they would recognize their humanity. And that's all that we needed to move equality forward.”

    Her child, Avery Jackson, just turned 16 years old. They have also spent years advocating for trans rights – testifying in state capitols and sharing their story.

    "Avery's not just known here. They're known across the country and actually around the world,” Debi Jackson said. “That's one of the reasons it's really hard for them right now. Politicians love to use their image as the image of trans kids.”

    At 9 years old, Avery Jackson was the first trans person to be on the cover of National Geographic in their Gender Revolution Issue.

    "From that exposure, we have had so many threats and attacks that they're just, they're tired of it,” Debi Jackson said. “It’s time to get our kid away from that.”

    She said Avery does not feel safe in their home anymore. So, the Jacksons are moving out of state. They aren't publicly sharing where they plan to move because they have received so many threats.

    "If we can be somewhere where we don't have to actively go fight for their rights in the state legislature every single year, at least that will be some sort of relief,” Debi Jackson said.

    As a parent and an advocate, moving isn't something Debi Jackson ever wanted to do. She said there is power in boots on the ground, but her child’s health will always be the most important.

    "We're just ready to be somewhere where we don't have to think about this every single day,” Debi Jackson said. “If we have a chance to leave now, why would we not take that opportunity and get our child to a place of safety?”

    She said she is angry and she’s ready for change.

    “I'll keep the work going. But I think visibility is key to change," Debi Jackson said.

    Their hope is to leave before the end of summer. Everything is packed and they are ready to sell the house. But, moving isn’t easy or cheap. There is a GoFundMe set up to help with moving expenses.

    Gov. Mike Parson signed two bills targeting the rights of transgender people into law at the beginning of June. One bans gender-affirming care for minors and the other prohibits trans girls from playing on women’s sports teams.

    https://www.kmbc.com/article/theyre...anti-lgbtq-laws-missouri-kansas-city/44192393
     

Share This Page