If you knew just one of our vets would be traded this season...

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Rastapopoulos, Nov 1, 2024.

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Who needs to go first?

  1. Jerami Grant

    48.5%
  2. Deandre Ayton

    6.1%
  3. Anfernee Simons

    36.4%
  4. Robert Williams III

    3.0%
  5. Matisse Thybulle

    6.1%
  6. NONE OF THEM! I LOVE THEM ALL

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    ...which one would you choose?
     
  2. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Cue inevitable series of "it depends what we get for them" posts. No shit Sherlock, just imagine we get a fair exchange. Yes, that seems unlikely - to be honest there are too many teams with players they want to unload and not enough takers, but let's fantasize, shall we?
     
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    I don’t think DA is even remotely on the trade menu.

    despite what the fan base thinks, it very much feels to me like the franchise wants to invest in him, as they should based on his true potential and quality of passion.

    Anyway I went with Ant, because when the shots not falling there is zero use case for him. And the shots are so rarely good shots.

    What do we get for him? I think he has a lot more value as a clear 3-4 option on someone like the Magic in which case he’s worth the 1st we want, as he could easily be a better fit on another team. I like him on the spurs too for some reason.
     
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  4. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Grant, simply because we have a lot more forwards who need minutes than we do guards.
     
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    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    But he's a guard now.
     
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    I am liking the development of Rupert. I am hoping in the long run that he can be better than Thybulle. He is a longer defender (although not a better one yet) and has more potential on offense. So if they traded Matisse for salary purposes I would be fine.

    But that is not who I voted for. I think when you combine age, salary, and depth that Grant is the best choice. Once Sharpe comes back then he starts at SG and Deni and Camara can start at the forwards with Murray, Walker, and Duop coming off the bench.

    I have no desire to trade Ant or Ayton. As for Williams, I don't care one way or the other. He needs to get healthy first.
     
  7. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    He's a swingman, often playing alongside Scoot/Ant, and his absence would still make more room for others (like Rupert).

    Until Sharpe gets healthy, Ant's absence basically just means more time for Banton.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    I went with Ant because he has fewer redeeming qualities.

    But really, both Ant and Grant need to go for fair value.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Who cares.

    Just lose. Nothing else matters. Thanks Jodi for instilling apathy!!! Woooo!

    Lose.
     
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    Voted grant. Laid it out in the goals for the season thread. Whenever Sharpe returns, I'd love Camara and Deni as our forwards, with time for Rupert and walker and Murray. Grant blocks that time.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    I think development matters. Developing good habits will be better than bad habits. We should be looking at bringing in vets that these guys respect, who are past their prime, who built a career based on good habits, but due to age are no longer formidable enough to expect to dominate the ball.

    Yes, I do think new ownership (committed to winning in Portland) is sorely needed.
     
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    I picked Jerami just because I think he adds value on both ends of the court to a team trying to win now and in the playoffs... and he's definitely a diminishing asset at this point.

    So if Ant ends up sitting the second half of the season he should keep whatever trade value he has at that point and the same could be said for Deandre. Guys like Rob and Tisse could actually rehabilitate their diminished value if they played some effective minutes this season and if Rob stays healthy from now until the end of the season, even if he is sitting a lot of games healthy in the name of tanking then I think Rob's value has the best chance to increase from now until the off season.

    I think you move everyone on this list besides Deandre for a fair offer and still if you get a really good offer for him, you might do that too.
     
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    Im sure you will get more for Grant and we are loaded at forwards. Tou will go back to forward once Shae comes back, so have a young set of forwards. Simons value is probably low and he still a young player so make him part of the guard rotation till something reasonable is there for a trade.
     
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    I am sure they will try to trade Grant first, but I am not sure they will be able to get what they want, so I am guessing RW3 is the most likely to be traded.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Grant should be it. He could help a contender right now.

    Simons, sure, but who's going to pay for him? He's playing like hot garbage so far this season. 39% from the field and 31% from three. He's still a horrible defender. He's coming up on the end of his contract.
     
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    if I had my wish on the priority of players traded it would be:

    Simons
    Ayton
    Grant
    Timelord
    Thybulle

    I chose Simons for the poll because 9 years of trotting out an undersized, no-defense SG was 8 years too much; and this is the 10th season of that failing. It doesn't change things shifting him to PG either

    like others have said though, I doubt that Simons & Ayton have any positive value. Grant has the highest value but it sure isn't two first round picks value.
     
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    I think Ayton has some value. I think Simons probably has very little.
     
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    I think it would have to be the right team for both guys but I think there are some teams that would have positive value on one or the other. I don't know if that's a FRP for either guy. I still think Ant is priced just about right for a microwave in today's league. I think Deandre is still the same guy who was the third most impactful player on a team that went to the finals and at the 5, that's usually worth around the max... not supermax by any means but about what he's getting paid.

    I think a team like NOLA would really want Deandre. I think a team like Orlando would pay for Ant. I'm sure there are other teams that would send us positive value for those two but even DA to NOLA and Ant to Orlando would be hard to project how much we would get back.
     
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    Grant is the clear vote as he has the longest contract with the most risk we could get stuck with it. At least the others are expiring next year so worst case scenario we just let them walk.

    Or that is worst case scenario if we had a decent GM. Real worst case scenario is giving them a stupid extension and I'm concerned that's the move Cronin might do.
     
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    Then shouldn't you vote for who is helping the team win the most?
     

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