OT Musk/Twitter - The Great Experiment

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Not for slave wages you can't...
     
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  2. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Nor with the current....and future......state of the American education system. We dumb down our citizens and then cry bitter tears when we have to import educated brains......
     
  3. jonnyboy

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    Bullshit. This is greed motivated.
     
  4. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    I've worked in this field for the past 30 years. It is not bullshit.
     
  5. jonnyboy

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    Um, pardon? Visit India sometime dude, it’s not a place run by the worlds most “educated brains”. If it were, then why do they want to leave it for this place? There is a massive logical fallacy here. They aren’t only importing the most elite engineers either, they are importing people to fill every facet top to bottom. It’s greed.
     
  6. Rastapopoulos

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    Hmmm
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  7. jonnyboy

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    Start making companies pay foreigners with visas the same wages as Americans then. You’ll see the “Superhuman Indian Brain” theory dry up pretty fucking fast and American engineers begin to materialize. It’s called incentive. Americans have less because they’re being replaced by cheap labor.
     
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  8. jonnyboy

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    Ding ding ding
     
  9. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    Boogeyman China is always the scapegoat for gutting the American worker too. We have to “compete” or else the draconian communist country that produces zero innovation will “get us”. We’ve been told this for forty years now. They still produce nothing but widgets.
     
  10. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    False.
     
  11. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    Compelling argument lol. I accept your resignation.
     
  12. Everything Beagle

    Everything Beagle Well-Known Member

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    Don’t work too hard on that incisive argument.
     
  13. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    LOL. I don't have to present an argument. I know.
     
  14. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    Yes, the United States is facing a tech talent shortage:
    • Supply and demand
      The demand for qualified tech workers is higher than the supply. The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) projects that the shortage of tech workers in the U.S. will grow to 1.2 million by 2026.
    • Hiring challenges
      78% of employers in the information technology industry face hiring challenges. 66% to 90% of U.S. employers struggle to find the skills they need.
    • Retaining talent
      Only 29% of IT workers are very likely to stay with their current employer.
    • Cost
      The shortage of tech talent can lead to longer hiring times and higher hiring costs.
    Some factors contributing to the tech talent shortage include:
    • Cost of education
      The high cost of a university degree can make it difficult for students to pursue a tech career.
    • Lack of diversity
      The tech industry lacks diversity because students who can't afford a tech degree don't go to school.
    • Lack of STEM interest
      There's a need to boost student interest in STEM opportunities at the K–12 level.

    To address the tech talent shortage, some recommend:
    • Reassessing the skills of current employees
    • Identifying soft skills like problem-solving, relationship-building, empathy, and creativity
    • Strengthening soft skills through training and mentoring programs
    • Retaining more foreign graduates from U.S. institutions
     
  15. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    But keep blaming it on Corporate Greed which is your "go to".
     
  16. jonnyboy

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    Dude, this looks like a half-assed high school presentation. It literally addresses nothing I said about wages or incentives. It was probably written by a lobbyist and published by the “Department of blah blah blah”. It’s really devoid of any actual content. Just a bunch of dumb bullet points with no backing
     
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    Is Corporate Greed a band?
     
  18. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    I gather you've been to India then? And they are leaving because, for all their education they are even more poorly compensated in their home country. They may make what you call "slave wages" here, but it's significantly more than they would be making if they had stayed in India. And c'mon man, you know as well as I do that today's American student is more poorly educated than at any other time in at least the past 100 years. Jeezus, it's mind boggling how poorly so many of them read, write and spell. I'm NOT supporting bringing immigrants in to fill American jobs....unless there aren't enough qualified Americans. But if we're being honest, it boils down to both greed AND lack of qualified American applicants. If they brought in qualified European applicants, the tech companies would pay them a living wage.....hence, you don't see a horde of European applicants. You see Asians willing to work for less. There is two sides to the issue, no ifs, ands or buts about it.
     
  19. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Whoa.....you just got your ass handed to you and this is your best response??? The actual facts of the matter aren't enough for you?? You just want to throw turds on the wall, call it art and admire them as they ooze toward the floor.
     
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    To be fair to Corporate Greed, it is ubiquitous and infinite.
     

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