Trade Deadline: February 6, 2025

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by wizenheimer, Jan 18, 2025.

  1. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    I just don't know and Bert is much easier to hate than Joe. Joe is always sensible and respectful when he explains what he wants us to hear about what he's supposedly trying to do. I said this wasn't the season to stop tanking... that's on whoever supports that decision in management. I said that Joe is too risk averse and even though it's worked out for him with Jerami and Deni, it seems to have the same risks other passive approaches have in business... opportunities that are close aren't guaranteed to stay that way.

    I wish we were going all in on this draft. I wish we had got rid of Ant and Jerami so Scoot and Shaedon would be starting tonight but it didn't happen and it seems like the team is just going to try and win as many games as possible. I don't love it but I'm going to root for our players.
     
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    It doesn't matter. We still don't have enough talent to make the trades that will be required to compete for championships.

    We need another two players like Scoot, Sharpe, Deni, Camara and Clingan. And we'd need to hope they reach their potential. And then we'd need to draft very well and hopefully a Batman will become available that we can trade for.

    Ayton is damaged goods and will probably be more valuable to us than we'll be able to trade him for.

    Ant and Grant aren't worth anything. Nobody else on the roster really is... Maybe Ayton and Ant can get us something with their expiring contracts.

    We need everything valuable that we have. There is zero margin for error if we ever want to be close to a contender. And we'll have to get incredibly lucky to have any shot at getting over the hump.
     
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    With Ant and Grant starting? Probably not very often...
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    But if you plan to fail then... you're bound to fail because you'll either fail or you'll succeed and that would be a failure to execute your plan. Just something to think about.
     
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    Yup
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Never said plan to fail. Just no plan to succeed.
     
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    Ant and Grant are good players. Not all star or almost all star or whatever people tried to say CJ was. Good.
    Grant will be too old for the next playoff run. Ant needs trading this summer. They both have value.

    Ayton is good but has limitations that are frustrating to watch even for what he does well. And the paycheck was the max offer from Indiana then matched by Phoenix. PHX was not going to give max and max years. When people say he got max, that’s only kinda right. It’s like saying Luka is 25 and ignoring he’s 26 this month.

    Thybulle isn’t staying healthy, and other young Blazers look good (or promising) on D for less.

    TimeLord. I just don’t know. His medicals make all the difference. Like him healthy. No opinion.

    Cronin not getting deals done sucks. The timeframe for trades was originally, basically talked about as being by this summer. It looks like it’s still the case. Next February is not an option.
     
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    1) what does the bolded part even mean?

    2) do you remember what we got him for? (He was a literal throw in at the time, when you consider we also got toumani whom alone is worth 25 nurkic’s.)
     
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    It means nobody wants him. He has no trade value. So we aren't likely to be able to use him in a trade for a Batman.
     
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    So, they preemptively reduced his trade value? Brilliant.

    That's true for most successful 3-and-D players, though. They're always sought after but very tough to project.
     
  11. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?!
     
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    There's a clear path and plan, you're just acting too obtuse to see it.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Let’s see, I’m going to take this to mean Bert is your uncle and you are shocked to hear he would interfere. Now if I’m wrong, it’s all your fault
     
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    Now that it is clear that Cash Consideration is no longer a part of the team, do we think the Blazers are going to retire his jersey?
     
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    Failing to plan is planning to fail.
     
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    Usually after a trade deadline there are 100 pontificators on here stating the deals Portland were in on that just barely did not happen for this reason or that. Crickets so far. The silver lining in this for me is that we can now call Ayton, Simons, Williams and Thybulle expiring contracts next season. I doubt Thybulle will opt out after this season given how this season has gone for him. That will just leave Grant as the albatross on the roster. However, neither Cronin nor the Vulcans can be trusted to be good stewards of the Blazers and will probably offer these players ridiculous contracts to stay. If somebody wants to start a new poll regarding this subject, please do. Ask;

    Would you resign player X?
    For how much (Years/$)
    Why?
     
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    Only potential deal I've heard of is the Lakers wanted to get Timelord from us and were offering a protected first round pick or Dalton and we insisted on getting an unprotected pick. The Lakers then pivoted to do the Mark Williams trade.
     

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