<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Dec 26 2006, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>One year wonder? Even though his 3 seasons before that were better than Byner's best season.And if you could read, that'd be fucking sweet.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5)</div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, his 2 whole Pro Bowls in 14 seasons.His three 1,000+ yard seasons, 2 of which he barely got over.His 0 seasons in which he had double digits in rushing touchdowns.His less than spectacular 3.9 yards per carry throughout his career.Those all fall under the best ever. How many rushing categories does he rank top 10 in NFL History in? None.<u><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%">I'm not saying Terrell Davis deserves to be top 10</span></u>, but I'd take him over Earnest Byner any day.</div></div>Like I said, I'd take 44 players long before I'd even consider Terrell Davis. Byner was a 2 way threat. He could hurt your running and recieving. Davis, he only hurt you when he was running.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dawgfan @ Dec 26 2006, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Earnest Byner = 1984 cle | 16 | 72 426 5.9 2 | 11 118 10.7 0 || 1985 cle | 16 | 244 1002 4.1 8 | 45 460 10.2 2 || 1986 cle | 7 | 94 277 2.9 2 | 37 328 8.9 2 || 1987 cle | 12 | 105 432 4.1 8 | 52 552 10.6 2 || 1988 cle | 16 | 157 576 3.7 3 | 59 576 9.8 2 || 1989 was | 16 | 134 580 4.3 7 | 54 458 8.5 2 || 1990 was | 16 | 297 1219 4.1 6 | 31 279 9.0 1 || 1991 was | 16 | 274 1048 3.8 5 | 34 308 9.1 0 || 1992 was | 16 | 262 998 3.8 6 | 39 338 8.7 1 || 1993 was | 16 | 23 105 4.6 1 | 27 194 7.2 0 || 1994 cle | 16 | 75 219 2.9 2 | 11 102 9.3 0 || 1995 cle | 16 | 115 432 3.8 2 | 61 494 8.1 2 || 1996 bal | 16 | 159 634 4.0 4 | 30 270 9.0 1 || 1997 bal | 16 | 84 313 3.7 0 | 21 128 6.1 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 211 | 2095 8261 3.9 56 | 512 4605 9.0 15 |Look at those totals. Now, look at these 'amazing' totals for Terrell Davis. 1995 den | 14 | 237 1117 4.7 7 | 49 367 7.5 1 || 1996 den | 16 | 345 1538 4.5 13 | 36 310 8.6 2 || 1997 den | 15 | 369 1750 4.7 15 | 42 287 6.8 0 || 1998 den | 16 | 392 2008 5.1 21 | 25 217 8.7 2 || 1999 den | 4 | 67 211 3.1 2 | 3 26 8.7 0 || 2000 den | 5 | 78 282 3.6 2 | 2 4 2.0 0 || 2001 den | 11 | 167 701 4.2 0 | 12 69 5.8 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 81 | 1655 7607 4.6 60 | 169 1280 7.6 5 |</div>Byner - 39.1 yds rushing per game, 21.82 yds receiving per game, .33 TDs per gameDavis - 93.9 yds rushing per game, 15.8 yds receiving per game, .8 TDs per game
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jeefunk @ Dec 27 2006, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Byner - 39.1 yds rushing per game, 21.82 yds receiving per game, .33 TDs per gameDavis - 93.9 yds rushing per game, 15.8 yds receiving per game, .8 TDs per game</div>Naturally the numbers are going to come out that way. Davis played less games and had one above average season. Byner had a bunch of average seasons. Davis played more than half the games that Byner played. His averages are not going to be so well. If you compared any player that had a shorter career with someone with a longer career the numbers will be screwed up.
:LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: You don't get it do you? He underachieved period. Every game he played he must have touched the ball 40 times and maybe got 100 yards. His stats suck for every season and you sit here and say that TD had 1 ABOVE AVERAGE SEASON?!?! Anything over 1,500 yards is impressive and definitley above average. The saddest part is you are comparing a guy who had less rushing TD's than a man who played LITERALLY HALF HIS AMOUNT OF SEASONS. Terrell Davis was definitley a pick ahead. Byner was terrible, so stop with this 2 way threat yada yada yada shit.
There are like 60 RBs today that get 40YPG and like 100 RBs today that had a better YPC average than Byner. I might as well put John Riggins up there in the top 10.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Dec 27 2006, 09:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>:LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: You don't get it do you? He underachieved period. Every game he played he must have touched the ball 40 times and maybe got 100 yards. His stats suck for every season and you sit here and say that TD had 1 ABOVE AVERAGE SEASON?!?! Anything over 1,500 yards is impressive and definitley above average. The saddest part is you are comparing a guy who had less rushing TD's than a man who played LITERALLY HALF HIS AMOUNT OF SEASONS. Terrell Davis was definitley a pick ahead. Byner was terrible, so stop with this 2 way threat yada yada yada shit.</div>Like I said in a previous post:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>and I would take these people before your 'GOAT' TD:1. E Smith 183552. W Payton 167263. B Sanders 152694. C Martin 141015. J Bettis 136626. E Dickerson 132597. T Dorsett 127398. J Brown 123129. M Faulk 1227910. M Allen 1224311. F Harris 1212012. T Thomas 1207413. J Riggins 1135214. O Simpson 1123615. *C Dillon 1117416. R Watters 1064317. E George 1044118. *E James 1031919. O Anderson 1027320. *T Barber 1021421. *F Taylor 948722. E Campbell 940723. *W Dunn 940324. *L Tomlinson 911025. *S Alexander 862126. T Allen 861427. J Taylor 859728. *A Green 842029. J Perry 837830. E Byner 826131. H Walker 822532. R Craig 818933. G Riggs 818834. L Csonka 808135. F McNeil 807436. *S Davis 804837. P Holmes 803538. G Hearst 796639. J Brooks 796240. *J Lewis 773241. C Warren 7696I'd even take these two over him:43. M Pruitt 737844. L Kelly 7274</div>
Who gives a shit who you would take before TD. TD is not a top 10 RB, we've already said that, but you insist that Byner is a deserving top 10. I wouldn't even consider him a top 50 with those shit things you call good stats.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ Dec 27 2006, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who gives a shit who you would take before TD. TD is not a top 10 RB, we've already said that, but you insist that Byner is a deserving top 10. I wouldn't even consider him a top 50 with those shit things you call good stats.</div>When did I say that Byner is a deserving Top 10? I have been saying that Byner did better than TD.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dawgfan @ Dec 27 2006, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Naturally the numbers are going to come out that way. Davis played less games and had one above average season. Byner had a bunch of average seasons. Davis played more than half the games that Byner played. His averages are not going to be so well. If you compared any player that had a shorter career with someone with a longer career the numbers will be screwed up.</div>1995 den | 14 | 237 1117 4.7 7 | 49 367 7.5 1 || 1996 den | 16 | 345 1538 4.5 13 | 36 310 8.6 2 || 1997 den | 15 | 369 1750 4.7 15 | 42 287 6.8 0 |If those years are average seasons, then what do you call all those seasons where Byner had 300-400 yards? If 1750 = average, what is 1200 (Byner's highest single-season total)?
He still won't give a legitimate answer that will make any sense. This is really pointless because he can't admit he is biased.
Pretty much....Just for kicks, I dug up TD's postseason stats as well:1996 jax L,27-30 | 14 91 1 | 7 24 01997 jax W,42-17 | 31 184 2 | 4 11 01997 kan W,14-10 | 25 101 2 | 1 17 01997 pit W,24-21 | 26 139 1 | 1 2 01997 gnb W,31-24 | 30 157 3 | 2 8 01998 mia W,38-3 | 21 199 2 | 1 7 01998 nyj W,23-10 | 32 167 1 | 1 12 01998 atl W,34-19 | 25 102 0 | 2 50 0---------------------+-----------------+-----------------TOTAL | 204 1140 12 | 19 131 0per game avg: 28 touches, 160 yds, 1.5 TDsGoes to show that TD brought it the hardest when it meant the most.
I could name 200 RBs that were better than Byner lolHe only got so many TDs and yards because he played a lot. Bob Knight only has so many wins because he coached like 87213987398263932 games.
