What would you guys give for Etan Thomas in a sign and trade?

The dude is one of the best big men coming off the bench in the league. He is a total sparkplug. He rebounds, blocks, and dunks with awesome ferocity. What would you guys from other teams give in a sign-and-trade deal for him?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting method man:</div><div class="quote_post">The dude is one of the best big men coming off the bench in the league. He is a total sparkplug. He rebounds, blocks, and dunks with awesome ferocity. What would you guys from other teams give in a sign-and-trade deal for him?</div>

i think etan should be playing ahead of kwame brown. the wizards should keep e.thomas and package kwame "the bust" brown for a star shooting guard like ray allen or vince.

 

The Wolves might be interested in Thomas. You could probably get Sczerbiak for him. But that's just an idea, hes not a great center so he may not be worth much.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">i think etan should be playing ahead of kwame brown. the wizards should keep e.thomas and package kwame "the bust" brown for a star shooting guard like ray allen or vince.</div>

Kwame isn't a bust yet.

 

Actually, a decnt trade could maybe get set up between Minnesota and the Wizards for him. On the list of centers the Woves are looking at, he would be 3rd so hes a possible trade for them.

 

Morris Peterson.

 

How about the Bucks? Maybe Skinner and Kukoc for ET and a cash considerations? What do you think?

 

Doesn't Kukoc have a monster contract?

 

yes good point. I wanna get rid of him though. I wanna get Haislip Zachulia some time their young. For Milwaukee he said he is willing to take a paycut if we sign him.

 

Yes , but he said he is willing to take a paycut with Milwaukee. I personally hope we dont sign him, because we got two young players that can play that position(Haislip,Pachulia)

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">i think etan should be playing ahead of kwame brown. the wizards should keep e.thomas and package kwame "the bust" brown for a star shooting guard like ray allen or vince.</div>
Ahead od Kwame? Maybe aheard of Haywood, but definately not Kwame, this season when Etan was starting he was doing worse than when he came off the bench.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kaillou:</div><div class="quote_post">Morris Peterson.</div>
The Wizards aren't stupid

Raptors - Morris Peterson, and a future second round pick (don't even feel that's enough)


<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bangofan13:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes , but he said he is willing to take a paycut with Milwaukee. I personally hope we dont sign him, because we got two young players that can play that position(Haislip,Pachulia)</div>
Yes but Kukoc though old was instrumental by creating for the team during the season, he should get veterans minimum obviously, but Haislip hasn't shown me anything yet for me to trust him.
Pachulia is alright, but I'm not sold.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bangofan13:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes , but he said he is willing to take a paycut with Milwaukee. I personally hope we dont sign him, because we got two young players that can play that position(Haislip,Pachulia)</div>
Yes but Kukoc though old was instrumental by creating for the team during the season, he should get veterans minimum obviously, but Haislip hasn't shown me anything yet for me to trust him.
Pachulia is alright, but I'm not sold.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">The Wizards aren't stupid

Raptors - Morris Peterson, and a future second round pick (don't even feel that's enough)
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So the difference between being stupid and reasonable is a future second round pick? Do you know how many second round picks actually make an impact? Also, you're vastly underrating Morris Petterson. I feel like he can be an inpact player again when he signs a deal with a team other than Toronto.

 

damn u guys think higher of etan than wut i thought. plus anyways the wiz dont need a SG. so scezerbiak would not work. i think olowakandis career could be revived here in washington. altho he is, among other things, injury prone he could be pretty good out here in the east. i think a potential problem though is that etan is considered as a base year player so his trade value is half his contract. the wiz dont hav many worthless contracts to trade as filler. we dumped that wit laettner and stack.

 

o yea and to the toronto fan, we wont trade etan to you guys unless we get donyell marshall in return. you guys have chris bosh ready to start at PF anyway so giving up marshall will not really kill u. u guys need an intense banger at center. araujo altho a scorer lacks intensity on defense. for the sign and trade if we giv etan a 6 mil starting salary it will count for 3 million in the trade and then we could add in juan dixon who counts about 1.1 million. so the trade would be within the salary cap boundaries.

So ultimately

<u>Wizards Receive</u>
Donyell Marshall (36.4 mpg, 14.7 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 1.51 bpg, 1.5 apg, 1.13 spg)

<u>Wizards Trade</u>
Etan Thomas (24.1 mpg, 8.9 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.56 bpg, .9 apg, .46 spg)
Juan Dixon (20.8 mpg, 9.4 ppg, 2.1 rpg, .06 bpg, 1.9 apg, 1.15 spg)
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wizards get (-8.5 mpg, -3.6 ppg, + 1.1 rpg, -.11 bpg, -1.3 apg, -.48 spg)

<u>Toronto Receives</u>
Etan Thomas
Juan Dixon

<u>Toronto Trades</u>
Donyell Marshall

Final Summary: Toronto gets 2 hustle players in Juan Dixon and Etan Thomas with great work ethic. Etan provides them toughness up front which they sorely lack and Dixon provides them with a small backup SG who can score a lot of points when given the chance (30 one time last year and 30 one time this year as a starter). Due to the fact Marshall is a FA next offseason the Raptors get better stability in this deal. Etan could be involved in a training camp battle with araujo for the starting spot next year. at the very least etan would be the raptors' main big off the bench and would get about 25 mpg.

The Wiz get a starting power forward. Kwame Brown moves to center where he played at times last season. Marshall's expiring contract (which would not hav made a difference in toronto with all the guaranteed salaries for 04-05) could make a difference in the wizards' offseason plan for next season. they could have as much as 28.609 million dollars under the cap for next offseason if they decide to ditch marshall, kwame, hughes, haywood, and jeffries (altho that will not happen). As a result of this trade they will hope to sign one of the third-tier tough guys such as Chris Andersen or Fabricio Oberto.

 

Well, I dunno who the Wizard's SG is but are they better than Wally? I mean Wally is a good shooter and all aroung player. Thing is, in Olowokandi trader,it hardly makes sense due to the fcat the Olowokandi only averges 6 pints while Thomas gets 8. A direct trade of 2 players of the same position where the other team is losing like 2 points doesnt make a whole lot of sense. But anyways, the Wolves are surely ooking at him, hes like the 3rd best center on the market this off-season.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wave:</div><div class="quote_post">So the difference between being stupid and reasonable is a future second round pick? Do you know how many second round picks actually make an impact? Also, you're vastly underrating Morris Petterson. I feel like he can be an inpact player again when he signs a deal with a team other than Toronto.</div>
Maybe, but MoPete isn't that good, he isn't bad but he's digressed from things he used to do before, all eh does now is launch up three's and wait in the corner all day, when he drives even the commentators are surprised.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KG-MVP:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, I dunno who the Wizard's SG is but are they better than Wally? I mean Wally is a good shooter and all aroung player. Thing is, in Olowokandi trader,it hardly makes sense due to the fcat the Olowokandi only averges 6 pints while Thomas gets 8. A direct trade of 2 players of the same position where the other team is losing like 2 points doesnt make a whole lot of sense. But anyways, the Wolves are surely ooking at him, hes like the 3rd best center on the market this off-season.</div>

The Wiz's SG is larry hughes who was our team mvp last year. he outdid gil arenas altho arenas gets more pub. the team's playoff chances sank with hughes getting hurt late in the season. With Olowakandi I was thinking about his form other from this year. One year does not define a player's career.

 

I understand that, but Olowokandi is foten called a bust. Tho, he may turn out to be a great player on another team, so in that case it may be different.

 

the dude had one bad season. i think it may have been the offense or being a backup. anyways i think it is unlikely we would be able to get olowakandi due to etan's base year status. we hav only 2 players that could serve as filler (juan dixon and jared jeffries). i like a potential trade with toronto for donyell marshall better.