I know most of the people are sided with the Media, in that the Eagles shouldn't even shown up on Sunday. That's fine. Let take a look at each time position by position to see who is a better team Offense: 1. Quarterback This is a tough one, both Brady and McNabb are the best in the game. But since Brady has won 2 Super Bowls and never lost a playoff. Advantage: Pats 2. Offensive Line Both teams block well for both the run and the pass. Advantage: Even 3. Running Back Both Dillon and Westbrook had Pro-Bowl caliber years. Dillon is a better between the tackles runner, Westbrook is more versitile in the passing game. Westbrook can do more then Dillon. Advantage: Eagles 4. Wide Reciever With TO it's different, however at 70%. I like Branch and Patten on the outside. Advantage: Pats Defense: 5. D-Line Considering that the Pats play 3-4 and Eagles play 4-3, it's comparing apples and oranges. Still I like Kearse and Burgess on the outside, and Simon, Walker, Rayburn and Thomas on the inside. Advantage: Eagles 6. Linebackers Pats have prolly the best group in the League. Bruschi is a monster, and Vrabel loves to grab other team's players nuts, never hurts Advantage: Pats 7. Secondary. Even without the injuries for the Pats, Eagles are just so good here. With two Pro-Bowl safeties and two really good corners, this is definately the strength of the team. They do not give up the big plays, and that is what the PAtriots live on. Advantage: Eagles 8. Special teams. Both of the Kickers are incredible, with slight edge to Vinateri. Both Punters are pretty good. The difference is coverage teams, and Eagles are better. Advatage: Even Overall: Pats: 3 Eagles: 3 Even: 2 And there are two positions, such as QB and RB that people could disagree on either way. I see this game coming down to field-position and turnovers. Now with the announcement that Westbrook will return punts, it will help against the punt coverage teams of the Pats. This will NOT be a blow out folks, the media got all over the Colts to beat the Pats, it's the same here.
"3. Running Back Both Dillon and Westbrook had Pro-Bowl caliber years. Dillon is a better between the tackles runner, Westbrook is more versitile in the passing game. Westbrook can do more then Dillon. Advantage: Eagles" COME ON really, the eagles are what 16th for run defense. dillon ran for over 1600 years, third best in the NFL. advantage: pats all day i don't think it will be a blow out, but if the eagles can't stop dillon, it's going to be a long day for there defense with dillon running all over them. dillon may not get a lot of TD's but he frees up the passing game and as long as tom brady stays accurate than the pats will win this game by a td or two. good luck to you and your eagles. the eagles are the best team in the NFC, but the pats have proved themselves as the best team in the NFL.
Just like the Eagles couldn't stop Dunn and Duckett??? Eagles have only given up 6 plays of 40+ yards, while the Pats have given up 13. 20+ yards, Eagles have given up 54 and the Pats 48. Eagles defense is predicated on stopping the big play. I could care less is Dillon is running or not. What really hurts teams is when Brady throws a 60 yard bomb (ala Branch in Pittsburgh). As long as we stop the big play, I think we have a good chance to win.
Offense: 1. Quarterback This is a tough one, both Brady and McNabb are the best in the game. But since Brady has won 2 Super Bowls and never lost a playoff. Advantage: Pats - Agreed 2. Offensive Line Both teams block well for both the run and the pass. Actually the pats gave up less sacks and rushed for 33 yards a game more. Advantage: Slightly Pats 3. Running Back "Both Dillon and Westbrook had Pro-Bowl caliber years. Dillon is a better between the tackles runner, Westbrook is more versitile in the passing game. Westbrook can do more then Dillon." Actually Dillon is a Way better rusher, but not nearly the pass catcher that westbrook is. The Eagles have NO back who can do what dillon does in between the tackles. The Pats do have Kevin Faulk who is incredibly talented at doing same things westbrook does. He is not as good, 90% but thier combined versatility gives pats the edge. Advantage: Pats 4. Wide Reciever I would take about 20 other teams recieveing core over pats, but not the eagles without TO. Advantage: Pats - Agreed Defense: 5. D-Line I would call this a Tie, if the pats were healthier on the line, but since they arent I thikn eagles have advantage, thier lines do different thing but eagles are healthier as far as I know. Advantage: Eagles 6. Linebackers Not even close, Eagles have one solid line backer on entire roster - Trotter and patriots have 6 that could start for eagles. Advantage: Pats 7. Secondary. Without Injuries it is patriots in a landslide. With the injuries it is a lot closer. Talent wise the eagles are better. Thye have 1 great safety and corner(lewis and brown) a good Safety( dawkins) a good pass rush, and one liability - Lito Sheppard. The patriots have 2 great safeties and a great scheme. If i were picking on talent i would take eagles, on scheme the pats, all things i call it a tie Advantage: Tie 8. Special teams. Vinitiari is the truth, huge edge to him, cuz he has been there done that. Eagles coverage and return units out distance New englands by a significant amount. I would call it a tie Advatage: Tie Coaches Belichek gets slight edge on acount of his 4 super bowl rings Advantage Pats I would not consider any of these advantages big, except pats linebacking advantage, they are so minute they could easily be overcome and the game won by either teams, i think pats win it on last drive of game Overall: Pats: 6 Eagles: 1 Even: 2 One more thing, pats had better turnover margin during regular season, and we all know how big of a difference those make.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'> 3. Running Back Both Dillon and Westbrook had Pro-Bowl caliber years. Dillon is a better between the tackles runner, Westbrook is more versitile in the passing game. Westbrook can do more then Dillon. Advantage: Eagles </div> If westbrooke does more why didn't he then? 1515 yards 9TD's to Dillons 1738 yards 13 TD's while also helping to seal victories by killing clock....something your boy westbrooke can't do....sorry but little man isn't better and I'd argue if you're gonna look at running back you have to factor in both Kevin Faulk and Patrick Pass who I'd take over dorsey levens anyday of the week as a change of pace back.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>Just like the Eagles couldn't stop Dunn and Duckett??? Eagles have only given up 6 plays of 40+ yards, while the Pats have given up 13. 20+ yards, Eagles have given up 54 and the Pats 48. Eagles defense is predicated on stopping the big play. I could care less is Dillon is running or not. What really hurts teams is when Brady throws a 60 yard bomb (ala Branch in Pittsburgh). As long as we stop the big play, I think we have a good chance to win.</div> Who cares about dunn and duckett....they play for the falcons...the worst team ever to make a NFC championship game...shit the chargers were a better team than the falcons and they didn't make it out of the wild card game in the AFC. I think I could have stopped them myself....its easy to take away the run when thats all you have to worry about...because Vick is a joke and so are his receivers and all he did was show the entire NFL what a fraud conference the NFC was this year. I think you ahve just a little more to worry about with the pats so stopping Dillon is gonna be just a little bit harder....espcially since we run the ball against the 4-3 alot better than the 3-4. As for the big play....we'll hit it if you give it...if not we have no problem putting together nice long clock killing drives and pounding the ball down your throat. We can and have won in everyway possible...it just doesn't matter what style of play becuase we are a good fit for them all.
Eagles and the Patriots have a completely different offense. Westbrook is a perfect West Coast running back. He led all NFL RB's in recieving. They both have good running backs for their offensive philosophies. Westbrook missed one game this year, and was ineffective in two of them, due to a broken rib, otherwise his numbers would be much bigger. I would take Westbrook, cause teams have to flat out scheme just to stop him. Dillon is a good back, Westbrook is more versitile, either way the backs are good. Like I said, both QB and RB position you can take either guy and not miss a beat, thats just my opinion.
the real difference is that the pats coach can figure out anyother team and find a way to beat them. and i think that is why they play different in every game. bellick said it best when asked about the stealers game right after killing indi. what he said was the stealers are a completly different team and if we played the stealers the way we played indi we would get killed. so the pats had a different plan for them just like the pats will have a different game plan for the eagles.
Eagles are no different. We went from Blitzing Culpepper of the Vikings, to not blitzing Vick. Come on now, TOMW74 you are reaching here. Both of these teams are well coached, both defensively and offensively. Yes the Pats won two Super Bowls, but they also got lucky along the way. Remember the fumble vs the Raiders, the dumb-ass tuck-rule.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>Eagles are no different. We went from Blitzing Culpepper of the Vikings, to not blitzing Vick. Come on now, TOMW74 you are reaching here. Both of these teams are well coached, both defensively and offensively. Yes the Pats won two Super Bowls, but they also got lucky along the way. Remember the fumble vs the Raiders, the dumb-ass tuck-rule.</div> Uhhh, the call was correct, it wasnt a fumble. That is not luck, you are not lucky if the rules are called correctly. I think his point is that Belichek and crew do a better job of gameplanning than Reid and company, and he is right. That doesnt mean that reid wont do a better job this game, just normally belichek is better
No BF1, in that case it should have been ruled inconclusive. There is no way to know if his hand touched the ball or not, but it doesnt really matter. Belichek is a good coach, and I take nothing away from him. But it's not like Reid is Barry Switzer for crying out loud. Coaching is the least of my concerns.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>No BF1, in that case it should have been ruled inconclusive. There is no way to know if his hand touched the ball or not, but it doesnt really matter. Belichek is a good coach, and I take nothing away from him. But it's not like Reid is Barry Switzer for crying out loud. Coaching is the least of my concerns.</div> Maybe game planning isn't as important. Hey, Switzer at least won a Superbowl. Yes...I'm kidding.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>Just like the Eagles couldn't stop Dunn and Duckett???</div> Neither of them will never get to the level where they said that they held Corey Dillion jock let alone the type of numbers that he has. Even through the rough days in Cinc . Whoever said that the Eagles couldn't stop Dunn and Duckett is a complete retard.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'> Belichek is a good coach, and I take nothing away from him. But it's not like Reid is Barry Switzer for crying out loud.</div> You are so right....after all, Switzer has won a Super Bowl....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>Eagles are no different. We went from Blitzing Culpepper of the Vikings, to not blitzing Vick. Come on now, TOMW74 you are reaching here. Both of these teams are well coached, both defensively and offensively. Yes the Pats won two Super Bowls, but they also got lucky along the way. Remember the fumble vs the Raiders, the dumb-ass tuck-rule.</div> Has it gotten that bad already? You have to reach to 2001? So ya going to three superbowls in 4 years....man it's good to be lucky I guess
I'd rather be a lucky new england fan than an eagles fan. I am sorry if the ref follow the rules and make the right calls and it happens to be a good thing for the superbowl champs, but stop reaching man. the eagles have really two weapons, mcnabb and westbrook, and i think that new englands coaching staff can take those elements out of the game. with TO not being 100% it's going to be a hard game for the eagles. i know your going to say that they didn't have a problem with the vikkings and atlanta, but come on those teams couldn't hold up against new england or almost any team from the AFC. sorry to say the eagles haven't played a really good team sense they lost to pittsburg. go pats....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>Eagles are no different. We went from Blitzing Culpepper of the Vikings, to not blitzing Vick. Come on now, TOMW74 you are reaching here. Both of these teams are well coached, both defensively and offensively. Yes the Pats won two Super Bowls, but they also got lucky along the way. Remember the fumble vs the Raiders, the dumb-ass tuck-rule.</div> Has it gotten that bad already? You have to reach to 2001? So ya going to three superbowls in 4 years....man it's good to be lucky I guess </div> I am just trying to say, that sometimes you have to have a bit of luck along with the skill, Pats are a great team and I take nothing away from them. Imagine if that fumble stayes as called on the field, history completely changes itself.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>Eagles are no different. We went from Blitzing Culpepper of the Vikings, to not blitzing Vick. Come on now, TOMW74 you are reaching here. Both of these teams are well coached, both defensively and offensively. Yes the Pats won two Super Bowls, but they also got lucky along the way. Remember the fumble vs the Raiders, the dumb-ass tuck-rule.</div> Has it gotten that bad already? You have to reach to 2001? So ya going to three superbowls in 4 years....man it's good to be lucky I guess </div> I am just trying to say, that sometimes you have to have a bit of luck along with the skill, Pats are a great team and I take nothing away from them. Imagine if that fumble stayes as called on the field, history completely changes itself.</div> It WAS NOT A FUMBLE.
Listen to me. Whether it was or not is not the point. It was ruled a FUMBLE on the field, and it was reviewed. You cannot convince that with thick sheet of snow coming down, the ref could possible know what it was. There is a reason why in the replay rules it states that it has to be conclusive for a play to be overturned. In that case, it was not.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>Eagles are no different. We went from Blitzing Culpepper of the Vikings, to not blitzing Vick. Come on now, TOMW74 you are reaching here. Both of these teams are well coached, both defensively and offensively. Yes the Pats won two Super Bowls, but they also got lucky along the way. Remember the fumble vs the Raiders, the dumb-ass tuck-rule.</div> Has it gotten that bad already? You have to reach to 2001? So ya going to three superbowls in 4 years....man it's good to be lucky I guess </div> I am just trying to say, that sometimes you have to have a bit of luck along with the skill, Pats are a great team and I take nothing away from them. Imagine if that fumble stayes as called on the field, history completely changes itself.</div> Just like "IF" that LJ smith fumble doesn't land in freddie's hands maybe the vikings...blah blah blah...you don't see me claiming the eagles were lucky because the big word is IF and IF doesn't mean shit because what IF (insert player here) didn't miss that open receiver....or what IF that guy didn't miss a tackle.....or that coach made a different call.....you can say what if for every play in the game.
