<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Undertakernv:</div><div class="quote_post">The letter is pretty much part of the deal to get the charges dropped. I wouldn't really look too much into it since I it was probably written by one of his lawyers to get the prosecutors off their backs.</div> I don't believe that until I see some real proof because her civil lawyer have said that they will continue with the civil case. Why go there no idea.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Herbal-Tea:</div><div class="quote_post">I think he's just trying to be nice and giving her the benefit of the doubt. Instead of saying something along the lines of: "In your face nyah nyah nyah! You ruined my season and now I'm gonna press charges for emotional damages using my team of lawyers!" He's saying that he believes she was sincere about her rape accusations. Which is very classy in my opinion. Although it makes no sense. It's either she had consensual sex and then decided to get some fast cash, or Kobe raped her. There's no way a mentally normal man can rape a woman and feel like it was consensual. Unless the woman had a really weird way of expressing distress... BTW, congrats to Kobe and the Lakers. Although I'd like to point out that the prosecution was pretty incompetant.</div> i truly agree i think kobe is just saying whatever he feels is the best thing to say right now to make everything run smoothly.
He's saying that he thought it consensual at the time, but now realizes it wasn't. In other words, he realizes in retrospect that he raped her, but at the time wasn't thinking along those lines. Jesus, that's the most retarded thing he could have said. What was he thinking? He must have made some sort of deal with the prosecution where he'd confess to committing the crime as long as they don't use that confession as evidence in a court.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Quickness:</div><div class="quote_post">i truly agree i think kobe is just saying whatever he feels is the best thing to say right now to make everything run smoothly.</div> I don't think so. If that's all, why would he ask that the letter not be used as evidence against him? It looks to me like a planned confessional letter which satisfies the victim while not completely embarassing Kobe by using the word "rape."
Good for Kobe. He canfinally focu son Basketball, and as somebody else said, maybe have a new look on life. Maybe Kobe and his "boys" got the girl first. JK
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think so. If that's all, why would he ask that the letter not be used as evidence against him? It looks to me like a planned confessional letter which satisfies the victim while not completely embarassing Kobe by using the word "rape."</div> Do you really think Kobe wrote this? This is a statement written by KBs people. He said that the letter will not be used agains't him because of people like you who find a way to turn things.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jesseca328:</div><div class="quote_post">Do you really think Kobe wrote this? This is a statement written by KBs people. He said that the letter will not be used agains't him because of people like you who find a way to turn things.</div> I don't know who wrote the letter. But it is in his behalf, so one could legitimately assume that what's expressed in there reflects his own thoughts. And didn't you say before that the letter somehow shows that Kobe has "class?" Well, if you believe that, then I would guess that you also think they are his words. This is what I can gather from the statement. It is obviously a confessional/apology of some sort. The letter essentially concedes what prosecution has been arguing all along -- that the victim was not having consensual sex with Kobe. There's no way around that. It also makes little sense that Kobe (or his lawyers) would put out the letter on his own; more likely it was part of some sort of deal to get the charges dropped. But then the question becomes, does Kobe genuinely believe what's in the letter or is it just something he wrote to appease the prosecution? If he believes what's in the letter, than that means he believes in retrospect he engaged in nonconseual sex (rape).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">And didn't you say before that the letter somehow shows that Kobe has "class?" Well, if you believe that, then I would guess that you also think they are his words.<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> It shows class that even though after all she has done to him, if he wrote the letter, he will apologize for the misunderstanding. </div> It is obviously a confessional/apology of some sort. The letter essentially concedes what prosecution has been arguing all along -- that the victim was not having consensual sex with Kobe.<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Where in the letter does KB admit to ?I raped you and I apologize for doing it.? I don't see it, is it written in white? </div>It also makes little sense that Kobe (or his lawyers) would put out the letter on his own; more likely it was part of some sort of deal to get the charges dropped.</div> That could be very possible, she says I won't go forward with the criminal case but you have to apologize. KB's people say Ok and that's were it ends.
This is very good news for Kobe, but w/e happened to that other girl that said Kobe attacked or did something to her in Shaq's house in Orlando is she completely out of this story? Funny how Jane Doe as people are reffering to her as the girl who wanted justice not money dropped the criminal case, but is still pending on the civil law sue. I personally see this thing as not being over. Some new evedence or some type of report will arrive in the next few days that will start a whole new drama. Everyone should have seen this coming though he basically got the OJ treatment. Although I believed he was innocent he should have at least defended himself in court, but with this girl and her dirty history coming up that went down the drain. I think that this is just the first chapter to the down fall of Kobe saga.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">He's saying that he thought it consensual at the time, but now realizes it wasn't. In other words, he realizes in retrospect that he raped her, but at the time wasn't thinking along those lines. Jesus, that's the most retarded thing he could have said. What was he thinking? He must have made some sort of deal with the prosecution where he'd confess to committing the crime as long as they don't use that confession as evidence in a court.</div> Not even close. He said that she thought he raped her. Have you heard anything of miss Doe? She is mentally retarded (Or something along the lines) and emotionally challenged. I'm sure what she thoght is "Rape" and what everyone knows rape is is very different. Just glad this is out of the way.
He is apologizing as you can see and if you look closely hes trying to say in a nice way that she doesnt know what shes talking about. He say i beleive it was consensual and you dont see it that way so abviously hes trying to make the matter better and look at it from her point of view. and it has to do with the charges getting dropped.
Im kinda confused because Kobe is apolgizin and questionin her idea bout consenual sex? But she wont go on the stand during the crimnal case but she would during a civil case dealing wit money? But i also have a question bout Kobes stament why did the prosecution read his stament and not his deffense team. Thats somethin no one is talkin bout
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting RJ 21:</div><div class="quote_post">Not even close. He said that she thought he raped her. Have you heard anything of miss Doe? She is mentally retarded (Or something along the lines) and emotionally challenged. I'm sure what she thoght is "Rape" and what everyone knows rape is is very different. Just glad this is out of the way.</div> If you force yourself onto someone who doesn't want to have sex with you, that's typically considered rape. If Kobe believes this woman did NOT consider the act consensual, then that means she was non willingly engaging in it. That is, she was forced into it somehow. Perhaps what he meant was that in her mind she didn't want to have sex (or she didn't enjoy the way he was having sex with her), but she was afraid to express this in any way (physically pushing him away or saying "No"). If that's what happened, then I suppose that wouldn't be rape. Or, perhaps he did rape her but she didn't want to review her sexual history publicly on the stand, and so she decided to drop it.
His statement is simply saying, "At the time, I thought it was consensual. As it turns out, obviously...she believes that it was rape." If she gave the notion that she was cooperating and wanting to be with him, and she acted like it was great, but only because she was scared to do anything about it...it's not rape, it's stupidity...
^ yes exactly if she didnt want to have sex in the first place then why didnt she leave Kobe's room? so it must have been consensual since she didnt leave the room in the first place.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">His statement is simply saying, "At the time, I thought it was consensual. As it turns out, obviously...she believes that it was rape." If she gave the notion that she was cooperating and wanting to be with him, and she acted like it was great, but only because she was scared to do anything about it...it's not rape, it's stupidity...</div> I wouldn't call it stupidity. She might have been scared of actually being assaulted and raped, so she just went with it. Or, maybe she did try to resist but in his excitement Kobe ignored it. That seems just as likely to me.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">He's saying that he thought it consensual at the time, but now realizes it wasn't. In other words, he realizes in retrospect that he raped her, but at the time wasn't thinking along those lines. Jesus, that's the most retarded thing he could have said. What was he thinking? He must have made some sort of deal with the prosecution where he'd confess to committing the crime as long as they don't use that confession as evidence in a court.</div> That was how I interpreted too ... Either it was part of a deal, or Kobe's conscience really got the best of him....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting heatfan83:</div><div class="quote_post">Shouldn't something be done about this lady? I mean, she did waste a lot of tax payer's money and time. She should be some way punished to send a message that you shouldn't go around accusing people of a crime just because they are a celebrity, have a lot of money, or have something that you want.</div> Yeah except there are laws that protect the identity of rape accusers. If these laws did not exist, women might be scared to come forward. For every 100 rapes there are 1 or 2 women that lie about it.
