T-Mac uphappy so far

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  1. YaoMing03-04

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    I have nothing against T-Mac . its just that he is an overrated bum. And he is getting in Yao Mings path to stardom
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YaoMing03-04:</div><div class="quote_post">I have nothing against T-Mac . its just that he is an overrated bum. And he is getting in Yao Mings path to stardom</div>

    You're absolutely delusional. How many Rockets game have you watched this season? Be honest.

    McGrady isn't taking away rebounds from Yao. McGrady isn't preventing Yao from blocking shots. McGrady isn't forcing Yao to turn the ball over or miss dunks. Why do you the Rockets play terribly when Yao is on the floor and McGrady isn't? Is that T-Mac's fault also?

    I'll be frank. I don't think you know much at all about Rockets basketball, or NBA basketball in general. You actually suggested that Cleveland would trade LeBron James and two draft picks for Yao Ming, which shows you to be extremely ignorant. Yao Ming isn't half the player LeBron James is right now, and anyone who follows basketball could tell you that. And when Cleveland has a potential All-star center already in Ilgauskus, why would they even trade for Yao while giving up LeBron James?

    In previous posts you've referred to T-mac as a "black bastard" and a "thug" and now you say that he can't read or write. There's some seriously racist undertones in these comments. You better cool it with that crap.
     
  3. YaoMing03-04

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    Now lets not kid ourselves guys. How many people of Tracy McGrady's type have actually ever read a book. None. Thats why they are so stupid and no one likes NBA basketball. Because most of them are illiterate thugs who cant do anything but play ball. Not even that, they got whooped in the olympics. They should have had smart basketball player on that team. I suggested

    Grant Hill
    Mike Miller
    Matt Harpring
    Tim Duncan
    Brad Miller

    That 5 would have come home with Gold. Instead we had to send 11 illiterate thugs. If YAO MING WAS BLACK, people would be calling him the Greatest of all time. But no one wants to give him respect cause he is Chinese.
     
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    Holy crap there are some immature bigots on this board.
     
  5. 30 standing ver

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    Whoa Ming03-04 why are you just calling everybody on the olympic team thugs? God you almost made me forget what the topic was.

    Anyways I did state this earlier that JVG should have mixed up his half court offense with open court for T-Mac. Even though the Rockets had a solid season last year we all know Steve Francis game went down because of JVG style.

    As far as Ming, why is he only averaging 30.9 mpg? But he still has to play everybody like Shaq. He has me thinking that this is as good as he is going to be at times. He can't quite assert any kind of aggression. Only 1.33 bpg at 7'6 isn't really to impressive either.

    T-Mac isn't really playing to great but it's not surprising being an open court player and settling for halfcourt with having a big man in the middle. I just say that JVG has to let some kinda openess for open court players as well. It's already been stated why they're aren't as good defensively.
     
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    None of Yao Ming's bad productivity is caused by T-Mac. Whenever Yao gets the ball, there is a 50% chance that he'll get stripped. With that kind of probability, who would have the confidence in throwing him the ball?

    YaoMing03-04: You have already been warned about you racist comments. Stop it or action will be taken.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YaoMing03-04:</div><div class="quote_post">Now lets not kid ourselves guys. How many people of Tracy McGrady's type have actually ever read a book. None. Thats why they are so stupid and no one likes NBA basketball. Because most of them are illiterate thugs who cant do anything but play ball. Not even that, they got whooped in the olympics. They should have had smart basketball player on that team. I suggested

    Grant Hill
    Mike Miller
    Matt Harpring
    Tim Duncan
    Brad Miller

    That 5 would have come home with Gold. Instead we had to send 11 illiterate thugs. If YAO MING WAS BLACK, people would be calling him the Greatest of all time. But no one wants to give him respect cause he is Chinese.</div>

    First of all, Brad Miller is not intelligent. Secondly, how can you say that Team USA was all illiterate thugs, and then come back and recommend Tim Duncan? Tim Duncan was already on the team, is he an illiterate thug? If so, why did you list him?

    Lastly, for any mods/admins who read this, it is very disappointing how you have handled (or rather not handled) this kid's comments. He has made racist comments in multiple threads, nothing appears to have been done. Yet the minute people start disagreeing about Artest's suspension or Kobe vs Shaq you start handing out warnings.

    I guess certain guideline violations are more important to you than others :thumbsdow .
     
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    Well T-Mac's shooting isn't what the Rockets have hoped it would be, especially with all the open looks Yao should be giving him.

    T-Mac ranks #18 in the NBA in Top 50 Field Goal Attempts. If you rank in Top 50 FGAs then you should also rank the same in Top 50 FGM. Most players tend to be a bit lower, but if you're efficient you would rank higher in the FGM, around #15 or better would be good for T-Mac.

    Anyways it's not a good sign when a player ranks in FGAs but not in FGM. T-Mac is shooting somewhat poorly @ 40%-FG and uses the Kobe Bryant remedy of just "shooting it out" which hurts the team.

    If T-Mac is gonna be the main threat they need him to be more efficient because he just jacks up too many shots and doesn't land enough of them.

    No matter how good your defense is, if you can't land your shots you are destined to lose.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sniper:</div><div class="quote_post">I think it's because Francis, Mobley, and Cato were all average or better defenders.

    Lue is too small and Ward is too slow to avoid being liabilities on defense, and Howard doesn't even know how to spell defense. Tracy is the only one of the bunch with potential.</div>
    I agree here. I think the Rockets gave up a lot to acquire McGrady. The simplest way I can explain it is you gave up your 45-37 wester conference playoff team to acquire half of a 21-61 eastern conference team. All the players traded to Orlando are having pretty good seasons and the Magic are winning.
     
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    You can't look at the trade in a cut and dry way though. You have to consider that the Magic have the #1 pick in the draft AND a healthy Grant Hill playing at an All-Star level for them AND they're in the Eastern Conference. Even with that said, they aren't winning THAT much.
     
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    Howard and Lue haven't helped us at all, and of course Reece Gaines probably shouldn't even be in the league. Effectively, we've given up 3 starters for McGrady and a crappy point guard. I always felt the trade would help both teams, but its clear that early on the trade has helped the Magic and probably hurt us. If we could somehow trade for a decent, productive player in exchange for Lue, Howard, or Gaines, then maybe we'll be a better team for it. That'll be tough, though.
     
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    face it...t-mac is a malcontent. he wasnt happy in toronto, then he wasnt happy in orlando...now he seems to already by unhappy in houston?? give me a break...looks like he's only be happy if he was on a team constantly winning championships and him as the leagues MVP.

    he's a moaner with a bad attitude.
     
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    How could anybody be happy when they're losing. Especially last year with Orlando. If he wasn't bothered by that then people would think he didn't care. And why should he be happy with a 6 and 10 start when they were projected to be one of the better teams in the league. Anybody think Yao is happy with this start. Nobodies happy on the Rockets right now.
     
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    You guys need Rick Adelman. THis guy can bring the magic out of Yao, just look at what he did with the bunch of average guys and turned them into a winning team.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ancientmtk:</div><div class="quote_post">You guys need Rick Adelman. THis guy can bring the magic out of Yao, just look at what he did with the bunch of average guys and turned them into a winning team.</div>
    Wishful thinking. And just for the record? What scrubs were on Sacramento? They had a top-tier team with top-tier players who were already stars before they got to Sacramento.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YaoMing03-04:</div><div class="quote_post">I have nothing against T-Mac . its just that he is an overrated bum. And he is getting in Yao Mings path to stardom</div>

    to be honest i think Yao has been more of a let down than T-Mac so far this season. I'm not saying this because i'm a fan of Tracy's, it's just what i have observed.

    Yao will be good one day, but i think right now he's too inexperienced and it shows in his inconsistent stats. i understand he's been in the league 2 and a bit seasons, but seriously i think he is yet to actually break out.

    i often wonder what would happen if JVG tried to play Yao and Mutumbo on court at the same time, play deke in the PF, i know he is old and slow, but there is potential for alot of easy rebounds and blocked shots. teams with no real 'big man' would probably struggle against that kind of D. perhaps a stupid dream there LOL.
     
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    Motumbo at PF is a coaches worst nightmare.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 30 standing ver:</div><div class="quote_post">How could anybody be happy when they're losing. Especially last year with Orlando. If he wasn't bothered by that then people would think he didn't care. And why should he be happy with a 6 and 10 start when they were projected to be one of the better teams in the league. Anybody think Yao is happy with this start. Nobodies happy on the Rockets right now.</div>

    he expected to come to houston with a huge hole at point guard and win a championship?

    yao is still developing, the team is has serious holes that need filling...it might take a couple years. the team isnt exactly stinking up the court and looks pretty good at times.

    one miserable year in orlando...and toronto was a team on the rise. imo...he's got nothing to complain about. he's just immature and impatient. he's shown that plenty of times now
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    face it...t-mac is a malcontent. he wasnt happy in toronto, then he wasnt happy in orlando...now he seems to already by unhappy in houston?? give me a break...looks like he's only be happy if he was on a team constantly winning championships and him as the leagues MVP.

    he's a moaner with a bad attitude.
    </div>

    I agree. And I love to see him fail simply because I hate him, I will make it clear and simple. I think he is an exceptional player but the way he carries himself, his persona and his attitude in basketball, off the court, is what makes me despise him. Looks like losing is following him everywhere he goes. The Rockets will turn it around soon, most likely next year, so he needs to chill out. This guy gets all amped up to win a championship on a team that has barely anyone that can help significantly aside from Jim Jackson and Juwan Howard. Yao Ming is definetly proving to be overrated. Tracy Mcgrady is not overrated as a player, he's overrated as a person, if that makes any sense. Don't mind me, I simply cannot stand him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Miami's Finest:</div><div class="quote_post">Well T-Mac's shooting isn't what the Rockets have hoped it would be, especially with all the open looks Yao should be giving him.

    T-Mac ranks #18 in the NBA in Top 50 Field Goal Attempts. If you rank in Top 50 FGAs then you should also rank the same in Top 50 FGM. Most players tend to be a bit lower, but if you're efficient you would rank higher in the FGM, around #15 or better would be good for T-Mac.

    Anyways it's not a good sign when a player ranks in FGAs but not in FGM. T-Mac is shooting somewhat poorly @ 40%-FG and uses the Kobe Bryant remedy of just "shooting it out" which hurts the team.

    If T-Mac is gonna be the main threat they need him to be more efficient because he just jacks up too many shots and doesn't land enough of them.

    No matter how good your defense is, if you can't land your shots you are destined to lose.


    I agree here. I think the Rockets gave up a lot to acquire McGrady. The simplest way I can explain it is you gave up your 45-37 wester conference playoff team to acquire half of a 21-61 eastern conference team. All the players traded to Orlando are having pretty good seasons and the Magic are winning.</div>

    The reason why T-Mac is shooting so many jumpers is because he's our bail out person. When we can't get a shot through role players they kick it out to T-Mac who has a couple seconds to take a shot. T-Mac usually catches it at the 3 point line and has no choice but to take the shot. Maybe that's why his FG % is lower than usual. I'm not worried about that category though.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">face it...t-mac is a malcontent. he wasnt happy in toronto, then he wasnt happy in orlando...now he seems to already by unhappy in houston?? give me a break...looks like he's only be happy if he was on a team constantly winning championships and him as the leagues MVP.

    he's a moaner with a bad attitude.</div>

    I couldn't agree with you more. If he's sick of losing, maybe he should look at himself. I mean, ever since he's been "the man" of a team that team stinks. Granted he got the Magic to the playoffs a couple of years ago, but his big mouth hurt them with the "I don't care who we play in the next series" even before the first one was over.

    That and the fact he couldn't guard a wet spot on the floor. Which is probably why he's not happy with the JVG system..he's forced to play D.
     

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