Golden State @ Washington -- 3/4/05

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  1. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post">Baron has given the whole team a fresh shot of confidence-ironically his firing away at a 25% rate from the arc was the sour note,especially the airball which was not even close. Anyone notice Kwame? I know he was on the floor more than Zarko or Bean but it didn't seem like it</div>
    Kwame could probably get better and be successful for some other team. Right now the offense doesn't really involve him. Plus his motivation is always in question and he's notorious for having bad hands. He certainly has the strength and athleticism to dominate, but he's such a disappointment. He's still pretty dang young though.
     
  2. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriors Redux:</div><div class="quote_post"><font size="3"><font color="Navy">
    He was wearing a Kings jersey... he had it coming.</font></font></div>
    [​IMG]
     
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    ^ [​IMG] [​IMG]
    GSW won. Biedrins played. Did the best he could since he no experiance latley. J-Rich and Davis rocks... Just great.
     
  4. GSWScruff

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    It looks like if we hadn't put scrubs (relatively speaking, of course) in for the last 2 minutes of the game we would have held Washington under 20 points for 3 out of 4 quarters. They usually score about 103 points a game.

    Maybe it's high morale that is making the team play better defense, but the defense has definately been better since Baron has gotten here. Keep it up you W's.
     
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    Great win!!! J-Rich with 34. Baron got 14 points, 7 assists. Murphy had a great game tonight. That was really the first time I've seen Murphy play down low. He was doing great, 14 boards and 20 points pretty much all down low!! Biedrins 7 minutes where great, he got his first block of his career [​IMG] Skittles did nothing, but he played two minutes! I am in heaven [​IMG] The Richardson-Davis alley-oop was sick! The Wizards did horrible. Antwan made Dunleavy and Murphy look like all-stars. Steve Blake earned my respect. That is the first player I've seen ejected who actually goes to the locker room instead of arguing with the ref [​IMG] The only regrets I had about this game were that the Warriors took 30+ threes, and Biedrins never got the ball from his teammates. But other than that great game
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GSWScruff:</div><div class="quote_post">It looks like if we hadn't put scrubs (relatively speaking, of course) in for the last 2 minutes of the game we would have held Washington under 20 points for 3 out of 4 quarters. They usually score about 103 points a game.

    Maybe it's high morale that is making the team play better defense, but the defense has definately been better since Baron has gotten here. Keep it up you W's.</div>


    I see what you mean, but this was a great time to play the scrubs like Beans. Foyle had 4 fouls, so he had to play and why not, he had to match up against Ruffin and that was a great way to start a career. Now he just needs to get the ball
     
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    Great Game...

    Yes, that was a GREAT game! The thing that impressed me the most was the energy level. Murphy went to the glass strong. Dunleavey played aggressive and seemed to have some fire. Baron was pressing on both offense and defense. And J-Rich was aggressive as usual, but also seemed more in control of himself. I was really impressed! [​IMG]
     
  8. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I'm hoping Biedrens keeps adding to that weight. Anybody know his real measurements? He's supposed to be something like 7'0", 255 I'd imagine.
    He grew an inch and some pounds. He moves kind of like Garnett. Very mobile for a 7 footer.
     
  9. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting tkdo:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes, that was a GREAT game! The thing that impressed me the most was the energy level. Murphy went to the glass strong. Dunleavey played aggressive and seemed to have some fire. Baron was pressing on both offense and defense. And J-Rich was aggressive as usual, but also seemed more in control of himself. I was really impressed! [​IMG]</div>
    Tkdo, Baron has definitely provided the confidence in this club hasn't he?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Tkdo, Baron has definitely provided the confidence in this club hasn't he?</div>

    He defenitly likes passing to Richardson, Dundun, and Murphy. That's good. He just needs to stop passing to Fisher and start passing to Beans when he is in. That could really help his development [​IMG]
     
  11. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-Rich23:</div><div class="quote_post">He defenitly likes passing to Richardson, Dundun, and Murphy. That's good. He just needs to stop passing to Fisher and start passing to Beans when he is in. That could really help his development [​IMG]</div>
    I can understand hating on Fisher when he's down, but the dude's been averaging at least 45% on shooting with assists and steals. What more do you want from him? I mean give some basis for your opinion.
     
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    Man I don't know what happened to Fisher. How can one play so bad and then play so well? Maybe Mullin had some contacts overseas regarding cloning.
     
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    Is this the right stop to jump on the "I like Fisher" bandwagon? Because I think I want to buy a ticket.
     
  14. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Fisher is one of these guys that you don't have to like, but you have to respect. I dont like Fisher, but I respect the help he's given. He's a winner. Horrible floor general, but a dependable shooter and passer when he's not forced to create. Does he have the potential to be a good point guard under Montgomery? I don't know. Fundamentally sound, upside seems limited, and is not the fastest horse at the track. Makes a nice poor man's David Wesley, better shooter/passer.
     
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    Yea I hope Fish stays this consistant...He's a great catch and shoot player and I have no problem with Davis setting him up for an open shot..If Dunleavy can keep playing this well we can have alot of offensive options on the floor..Mike's shot his improved over the last month or so and he is shooting the ball alot more confident..just thinking back to the game when Miami came to Oakland and Dunleavy missed like the first 5 shots, he seemed to be forcing things trying be more aggressive but not letting the game come to him, I think he is finally learning to get in the flow of the game better
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Makes a nice poor man's David Wesley, better shooter/passer.</div>Haha, for whatever reason I was just reminded of Baron's mixtape. I don't know if you still have the video, but in one of the clips David Wesley splits the defender on a 2 on 1 and sets up Baron for a dunk, and then proceeds to celebrate a little bit by doing what I can only describe as "The David Wesley Dance." One of these days I really want to see Fish pulling off those dance moves. Just the thought of it cracks me up.
     
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    Well, it's really funny how the season turned around for Fisher. Mullin originally signed Fisher to be a starting PG in the future, and that's why he got fat 36 mils/6 years contract. However, it turned out that he is worse PG than Speedy, worse player than Speedy over all, and because he doesn't get open looks like in LA and has nobody to grab his misses, he took a lot of bad shots and missed a lot of them. Therefore, in Nov and Dec, he averaged around 10 pts with disturbing 34% and 40% from the field including 26% and 30% from the 3 pts. Then, we decided to play small ball, and Fisher moved to SG position. He no longer has to dribble or set up a teammate. And, all he needs to do is catch and shoot, which he can do the best. In result, his score jumped 12.6 in Jan and 17.5 in Feb. Also, after still disappointing 39% from the field in Jan, he shot 48% in Feb and shot 47% in Jan and 37% in Feb in 3 pts.

    A lot of credit goes to Monty as well. After disturbing first half, he installed seemingly insane small line up, as if our defense wasn't already bad enough. Of course, our defense suffered more, but we provided enough offense to make the game very close till the end. Also, his small line up saved both Fisher and Dunleavy's season. And, with the addition of Davis, we may actually win those close games.

    At the end, it's funny to see how things turn around. Fisher was signed to be a PG, but he flourished in SG. Monty was hired to end chaotic and seemingly not-so-structered offense and bring a structured offense system that works, but at the end, our team is again flourishing in chaotic and seemingly not-so-structured offense system. But, this team is entertaing to watch again, and it's all good from there...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">I can understand hating on Fisher when he's down, but the dude's been averaging at least 45% on shooting with assists and steals. What more do you want from him? I mean give some basis for your opinion.</div>

    He shoots too much and takes 15 shots a game. I prefer he be more like the Fisher on LA. The one that isn't gonna try to be the leading scorer, but the one that't gonna chip on the wins
     
  19. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GSWScruff:</div><div class="quote_post">Haha, for whatever reason I was just reminded of Baron's mixtape. I don't know if you still have the video, but in one of the clips David Wesley splits the defender on a 2 on 1 and sets up Baron for a dunk, and then proceeds to celebrate a little bit by doing what I can only describe as "The David Wesley Dance." One of these days I really want to see Fish pulling off those dance moves. Just the thought of it cracks me up.</div>
    I don't think I have that one.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">
    A lot of credit goes to Monty as well. After disturbing first half, he installed seemingly insane small line up, as if our defense wasn't already bad enough. Of course, our defense suffered more, but we provided enough offense to make the game very close till the end. Also, his small line up saved both Fisher and Dunleavy's season. And, with the addition of Davis, we may actually win those close games.
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    Monty gets a bad hand at the beginning of the year and right now we're playing small ball out of necessity and we're surviving okay. Two win road game is awesome and the W's should pat themselves on the back for playing with tenacity. I guess the best defense is a good offense when you've got no inside game and only one or two guys capable of drawing double teams or beating a man off the dribble. Throw Fisher in, you got four guys that can create, pass, shoot, drive since moving Dun up can handle the power forwards that are slower than he. I guess Monty had to go with the matchup that can create some floor spacing and separation because Fisher can't blow by most point guards, Jrich doesn't really fool most two guards off the drive (but he's getting better), and Dunleavy at small forward (please, he's got to be stronger if he plans to bump somebody off their feet when he drives). But when Baron Davis is the guy worrying about running the offense, stretching the defenses, it allows the other players to use their skills more against favorable mismatches on offense (i.e. slower defenders that can't handle the smaller, quicker players or run out to contest the three point shot off open perimeter players left wide open on collapsed defenses)

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">
    At the end, it's funny to see how things turn around. Fisher was signed to be a PG, but he flourished in SG. Monty was hired to end chaotic and seemingly not-so-structered offense and bring a structured offense system that works, but at the end, our team is again flourishing in chaotic and seemingly not-so-structured offense system. But, this team is entertaing to watch again, and it's all good from there...</div>
    Monty still runs offensive sets at the descretion of the point guard running it, but when Baron is in the game he is so creative in the open court that it's like "throw out the playbook" until the final few minutes. And it is funny... I didn't think there was any GM's out there so willing to give up their franchise guy, especially to a team like us. Suddenly we have legtimacy. For the longest time I thought the W's had the most incompetent management than any other team, but if Cohan has a very high spending threshold, let Mullin do his thing.
     

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