Does Major League Baseball need a salary cap?

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  1. Pack Attack

    Pack Attack The KISS Army

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    Roger Clemens' salary for 2007 was $28,000,000. The entire Florida Marlins payroll was $31,000,000.

    Think about it...

    What do you say? Salary cap?
     
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    cpawfan Monsters do exist

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    Isn't there currently a luxury tax for MLB?
     
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    Not in favor of a salary cap.

    But in favor of more harsh luxury tax (which they just did away with)

    In favor of a min that teams need to spend.

    In favor of a better form of revenue sharing (but not total revenue sharing, but a system where 25% of team's revenue is put into a collection, team w/ best record in baseball gets the biggest share of that, worst team gets the smallest percentage).

    Certainly in favor of capping draft bonuses. This is a loophole for rich teams to get the best players in the draft.

    In favor of international drafting.

    Hate, and think something needs to be done in regards to posting fees (for int'l, mostly Japenese players). Like abolish it forcing them to become free agents.

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  4. Charles

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    The owners and players will never agree on a salary cap. I like the revenue sharing, but they need to make sure that the owners that receive money from the revenue sharing always invest it back into their team instead of just putting it in their pocket. And those that are paying should have to pay even more than they are now. If you look at it, though, there is a lot of parody in baseball.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Apr 1 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The owners and players will never agree on a salary cap. I like the revenue sharing, but they need to make sure that the owners that receive money from the revenue sharing always invest it back into their team instead of just putting it in their pocket. And those that are paying should have to pay even more than they are now. If you look at it, though, there is a lot of parody in baseball.</div>

    ... pretty sure they cut into revenue sharing this year guys. It's even less of a slap on the wrist.

    -Petey
     
  6. #1_War_Poet_ForLife

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    25% is too much, Petey.
    I think 10% is good.
     
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    ghoti A PhD in Horribleness

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    The MLBPA is a powerhouse. It'll never happen.
     
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    #1_War_Poet_ForLife The Baker of Cakes

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    Should it have one? Yes! Will there be one? Nope.
     
  9. Dumpy

    Dumpy Yi-ha!!

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    I'm more concerned with a related problem, which is described very well here:

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/...nd-short-of-it/

    In short:

    "In 2005, [the Marlins] received over $20 million in revenue sharing. In 2006, it topped $30 million and did so again last year. This year, they’re slated to receive $25 million. This is the eighth year of their ownership of the Marlins. Each year, they’ve received at least $20 million in revenue-sharing subsidies. We can assume that the average subsidy Loria has received as owner of the club is around $25 million. . . .

    At the end of 2008, the Marlins have received about $200 million in revenue sharing.

    MLB bought the Expos from him for $120 million and in turn sold the Marlins (to him) for $158.5 million, including a $38.5 million no-interest loan from MLB. Since the Marlins didn’t get a new stadium within five years, MLB forgave $15 million of the loan and charged no interest on the remainder.

    Total cost of the Florida Marlins—$143.5 million."
     
  10. Charles

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Apr 1 2008, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm more concerned with a related problem, which is described very well here:

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/...nd-short-of-it/

    In short:

    "In 2005, [the Marlins] received over $20 million in revenue sharing. In 2006, it topped $30 million and did so again last year. This year, they’re slated to receive $25 million. This is the eighth year of their ownership of the Marlins. Each year, they’ve received at least $20 million in revenue-sharing subsidies. We can assume that the average subsidy Loria has received as owner of the club is around $25 million. . . .

    At the end of 2008, the Marlins have received about $200 million in revenue sharing.

    MLB bought the Expos from him for $120 million and in turn sold the Marlins (to him) for $158.5 million, including a $38.5 million no-interest loan from MLB. Since the Marlins didn’t get a new stadium within five years, MLB forgave $15 million of the loan and charged no interest on the remainder.

    Total cost of the Florida Marlins—$143.5 million."</div>
    A-Rod will be paid more than the entire Marlins team this year
    Loria needs to think about putting all that money into a decent stadium for his team.
     
  11. Petey

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MyNetsForLife @ Apr 1 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>25% is too much, Petey.
    I think 10% is good.</div>

    10% seems low. I picked the number as I agree that you need 2 teams to play a game, many to form the league, so it should be split between the 2 teams playing right?

    On the other hand the teams have different values, and are bought for different rates. Instead of padding the pockets of the owners of the Twins, Marlins & Royals further, I had it at 25%, much less than half the revenue they help to generate for other teams like the Yankees, Sox and Mets.

    -Petey
     
  12. Petey

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Apr 1 2008, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm more concerned with a related problem, which is described very well here:

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/...nd-short-of-it/

    In short:

    "In 2005, [the Marlins] received over $20 million in revenue sharing. In 2006, it topped $30 million and did so again last year. This year, they’re slated to receive $25 million. This is the eighth year of their ownership of the Marlins. Each year, they’ve received at least $20 million in revenue-sharing subsidies. We can assume that the average subsidy Loria has received as owner of the club is around $25 million. . . .

    At the end of 2008, the Marlins have received about $200 million in revenue sharing.

    MLB bought the Expos from him for $120 million and in turn sold the Marlins (to him) for $158.5 million, including a $38.5 million no-interest loan from MLB. Since the Marlins didn’t get a new stadium within five years, MLB forgave $15 million of the loan and charged no interest on the remainder.

    Total cost of the Florida Marlins—$143.5 million."</div>

    The Marlins have played infront of smaller crowds. They don't have the greatest TV contract. I think Loria also deserves to make money... it's not like he didn't pay for the team. But on the other hand, the guy is a dirt bag. Someone else should take over the team.

    -Petey
     

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