Numbers don't lie? Ryan Anderson was the best rookie at 2008 Summer League

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  1. GMJ

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    Who Did Best in Summer League? Stats Geek Says Anderson
    July 13, 2008, 3:00 pm Dave Berri, the college prof who uses statistics to measure “wins produced” by NBA players, has now applied his models to the Orlando Summer League. The models show a D-Leaguer performed best. Among 2008 rookies, Ryan Anderson was the most efficient, he writes, followed by Russell Westbrook, Mario Chalmers, Jaycee Carroll, Brook Lopez and Chris Douglas-Roberts. Sean Williams, he reports, was subpar.

    [​IMG] Evaluating the Orlando Summer League Players - Dave Berri - Wages of Wins Journal
    [​IMG] Beasley Disappoints - Dave Berri - Wages of Wins Journal</div>
     
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    looks like the win score percentage would logically favor teams who won more than they lost. This model wold have to favor the team with the most wins.
     
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    kdub Cal's best coming to the Swamp!

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    It actually looks like Andre Emmet has a higher WS48 score, but congrats to Ryan and the Nets anyway.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kdub @ Jul 13 2008, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It actually looks like Andre Emmet has a higher WS48 score, but congrats to Ryan and the Nets anyway.</div>

    He was the best rookie...Emmett, Powell, Calloway, and Green have all been in the league at least 1 year.
     
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    When I looked at the stats after the games, he seemed like the worst of our rookies.
     
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    I had mentioned on earlier threads that due to his lack of minutes he had the best stats of anybody. Just look at his 3 point shooting %. He is boki's replacement.
     
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    I loved the rookies all week, but I really jumped on the Brook Lopez bandwagon. His defense can improve, but his offense looked pretty crisp. I saw him on some pick & rolls, face-up jumpers, and just backing down. I liked CDR and Anderson as well, but Brook's offensive game really surprised me.
     
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    i think it surprised everybody including the front office
     
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    Sean Williams PAWS48 -3.32

    does this mean Seanny was among the worst? [​IMG]
     
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    Is it silly to think that with inflated points, there should come inflated rebounds per minute? I guess I just figure faster pace, more shots, etc..
     
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    i gotta say this...draft pick of this year is so freaking unbelieveable awsome...Lopez for best center...CDR in 40th pick with great games...and now ryan?...we can do this ...im feeling it......

    da future~~~~
     
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    If Anderson plays more than spot minutes this year I'll be pleasantly surprised.
     
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    Stats only lie if you use them to describe things like "who is the best."

    The formula doesn't even attempt to include defense, so of course Swat's value would be deflated.

    I dunno, I just have a problem with these metrics. Who's to say how important an assist is, versus a rebound, versus a three point attempt. He just does a straight multiple regression of these stats versus wins, but I doubt he has any way of measuring any of the MANY non-linear effects a player like Beasley or Swat might have on the court.

    Plus, Berri's a pompous ass who thinks his stats are the word of god when it comes to "who's best." I'm not sure he is willing to acknowledge the concept that field goal percentage SHOULD drop as you take more shots.
     
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    Yuta Tabuse averaged a triple double per 48 minutes....
     

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