New Concacaf Qualifying System

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    New CONCACAF Qualifying Proposal Levels Playing Field By going away from the six-team Hexagonal
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    Under a new proposed qualifying format, the Hexagonal would go the way of the VCR. Instead of one six-team group, the final round would feature two four-team groups, each team playing their group rival home and away. Group winners would advance directly, runners-up would play each other with the winner claiming the third and final direct berth. Playoff loser would then play a team from another confederation for another World Cup spot.


    http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/67/w...w-concacaf-qualifying-proposal-levels-playing
     
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    Lame. No more USA v. Mexico matches that mean something as CONCACAF will be going out of their way to make sure that both nations qualify and both nations avoid seeing each other in those groups of four.
     
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    I am hoping that Canada can take advantage of the new set up.
    Maybe we can have some US/Canada matches or Canada/Mexico matches
     
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    Canada has a ways to go before they should be looking forward to US or Mexico matches. They need to overtake Costa Rica, Honduras, Trinidad, and even Jamaica before they can really be taken seriously.
     
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    Re: New Concacaf Qualifying System?

    CONCACAF qualifying system news update
    18 games to reach the 2014 World Cup, according to www.Diez.hn.

    The info comes from Mr. Alfredo Hawit Banegas, member of CONCACAF's Executive Committee.

    There's also this article in www.LaPrensa.hn, with the info provided by Mario Monterrosa, CONCACAF's deputy secretary.

    The system
    1. Preliminary round (if needed) to trim the number of teams to 32.
    2. 8 groups of 4 teams. Top two in each group through to the next round.
    3 .4 groups of 4 teams. Top two in each group through to the next round.
    4. 2 groups of 4 teams.

    - If CONCACAF will have 3.5 spots, the winners of the groups will qualify directly to the World Cup, while the second placed teams will play-off against each other first, then against a team from another confederation (CONMEBOL).

    - If CONCACAF gets 4 spots as they hope, the top two teams in each group will qualify to the World Cup.

    The system needs to be approved by FIFA's Executive Committee and I can't see why FIFA wouldn't approve it. Also according to Mr. Hawit, the allocation of places for the 2014 FIFA World Cup will be announced in October. Mr. Monterrosa, however, thinks the allocation will be known in December.

    http://www.football-rankings.info/2010/08/concacaf-qualifying-system-news-update.html
     
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    Last Updated 15 Dec 2010 Next Release 12 Jan 2011
    Ranking Zonal Ranking Team Pts
    Dec 10 +/- Ranking Nov 10 +/- Pts Nov 10

    18 1 USA 867 6 20
    27 2 Mexico 795 1 5
    58 3 Jamaica 522 24 109
    59 4 Honduras 516 -2 -6
    62 5 Cuba 512 32 159
    64 6 Panama 501 0 21
    69 7 Costa Rica 467 -6 -23
    84 8 Canada 411 1 8

    89 9 Trinidad and Tobago 373 -11 -49
    90 10 Haiti 367 11 32
    94 11 Grenada 349 -3 -26
    106 12 Antigua and Barbuda 299 9 46
    109 13 Guyana 275 -23 -117
    115 14 Suriname 257 6 26
    117 15 El Salvador 251 0 4
    118 16 Guatemala 247 8 30

    121 17 St. Kitts and Nevis 239 1 9
    129 18 Dominica 196 -1 -5
    131 19 Barbados 187 -11 -48
    133 20 Puerto Rico 184 -3 0
    142 21 St. Vincent and the Grenadines 132 -3 -25
    151 22 Netherlands Antilles 107 2 0
    157 23 Cayman Islands 88 3 0
    158 24 Nicaragua 86 3 0

    168 25 Dominican Republic 66 -6 -19
    172 26 Belize 54 3 0
    175 27 Bermuda 49 -2 -14
    176 28 British Virgin Islands 41 1 0
    181 29 St. Lucia 37 1 0
    187 30 Turks and Caicos Islands 19 1 0
    194 31 Bahamas 13 -1 0
    199 32 Aruba 7 0 0

    200 33 US Virgin Islands 5 0 0
    203 34 Anguilla 0 0 0
    203 35 Montserrat 0 0
     
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    Re: New Concacaf Qualifying System?

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    FIFA approve the new CONCACAF qualifying format

    According to various articles in the Mexican and Central American press (see this Univision article (http://futbol.univision.com/centroamerica/article/2010-11-03/la-fifa-aprobo-el-nuevo) for instance, FIFA have approved the new CONCACAF 2014 World Cup qualifying format (http://www.football-rankings.info/2010/08/concacaf-qualifying-system-news-update.html).

    It's interesting to know the draw for CONCACAF will take place on May 31st, 2011 in Zurich and will use the May 2011 FIFA ranking to seed the teams.

    The Brazilians have announced the main draw will take place on July 31st, 2010 in Brazil

    Also, there some info regarding the spots - both CONCACAF and CONMEBOL will keep their quota (3.5 and 4.5).
     
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    EXPANSION MINDED
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    CONCACAF wants 4th World Cup spot

    NEW YORK – CONCACAF wants another spot in the World Cup.

    The executive committee of the confederation of North and Central America and Caribbean soccer on Sunday announced that it will fight for a guaranteed fourth place at the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.

    During a meeting in Panama City, Panama, site of the Copa Centroamericana, the executive committee said it felt that CONCACAF had earned the right to increase its allotment of slots at World Cup finals from the 3.5 it currently possesses.

    “We believe that CONCACAF deserves another full place at the World Cup finals due to the performances of our teams on the field and the actions of our confederation off it,” CONCACAF president Jack Warner said in a statement. “We are unified in our efforts to make this happen.”

    A decision on the subject is expected to be made at a meeting of the FIFA Executive Committee in March.

    http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/article.php?article_id=26308
     
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    Last Updated 02 Feb 2011
    Next Release 09 Mar 2011
    Ranking Zonal Ranking Team Pts
    Feb 11 +/- Ranking
    Jan 11 +/- Pts Jan 11


    18 1 USA 869 0 2
    27 2 Mexico 803 0 8
    39 3 Honduras 613 17 82
    48 4 Costa Rica 560 21 93
    59 5 Jamaica 525 0 3
    60 6 Panama 518 7 43
    65 7 Cuba 498 -3 -14
    80 8 Canada 414 4 3

    92 9 Grenada 357 2 8
    94 10 Trinidad and Tobago 351 -7 -22
    96 11 Haiti 349 -6 -9
    98 12 El Salvador 347 18 96
    104 13 Antigua and Barbuda 303 -1 4
    112 14 Guyana 274 -1 -1
    117 15 Suriname 257 -2 0
    118 16 St. Kitts and Nevis 242 3 0

    126 17 Guatemala 220 -9 -27
    128 18 Dominica 196 1 0
    130 19 Puerto Rico 187 1 3
    132 20 Barbados 183 -2 -4
    148 21 St. Vincent and the Grenadines 110 -4 -22
    150 22 Netherlands Antilles 107 0 0
    156 23 Cayman Islands 88 0 0
    161 24 Nicaragua 79 -4 -7

    167 25 Bermuda 67 5 12
    168 26 Dominican Republic 66 -1 0
    169 27 Belize 64 4 10
    177 28 British Virgin Islands 41 0 0
    181 29 St. Lucia 37 0 0
    186 30 Turks and Caicos Islands 19 0 0
    194 31 Bahamas 13 0 0
    199 32 Aruba 7 0 0

    200 33 US Virgin Islands 5 0 0
    203 34 Anguilla 0 0 0
    203 35 Montserrat 0 0 0
     
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    Why is Guyana and Suriname in Concacaf? Shouldn't they be Conmebol? I mean they are in South America. It does not make sense
     
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    the reason that makes the most sense is that they are historically and culturally more connected with the Carribean Island nations than their SA neighbors
     
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    Re: New Concacaf Qualifying System?

    Several sources within the CSA have told Canadian Soccer News that FIFA has awarded CONCACAF a full fourth spot for the 2014 World Cup. The extra spot Africa had for 2010 will be distributed to CONCACAF and South America

    The spots are said to be:
    Africa 4.5,
    South America 4.5 plus Brazil,
    Asia 4.5,
    Europe 13,
    Oceania 0.5,
    CONCACAF 4.

    Rumours of the switch have been swirling all week. CSA was able to confirm today that federations within CONCACAF have been informed of the extra half spot.

    FIFA will make the announcement March 3.

    http://www.canadiansoccernews.com/c...ources-Four-2014-World-Cup-spots-for-CONCACAF
     
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    BACK TO SQUARE ONE!!!!

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/03/03/sports/s102247S30.DTL

     
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    Good, the system was stupid anyway. US v. Mexico should happen during qualifying or else neither side has any competition.
     
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    Goodbye Netherlands Antilles, Hello Curacao and Sint Maarten

    Yesterday night, two of the islands that made up the former Netherlands Antilles, Curacao and Sint Maarten, celebrated newfound autonomy as their own separate entities within the Dutch kingdom. They now share similar status with Aruba, the US and British Virgin Islands; as far as we are concerned, they will now be able to represent themselves in World Cup qualifying, although they are not actual countries (e.g. they won't get to be represented in the Organization of American States).

    As for current Netherlands Antilles team, they'll have a last hurrah in Suriname this week as part of Group C in qualifying for the Caribbean Cup, so I'd assume that as soon as they are knocked out, they'll disband.
     
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    I was really looking forward to seeing how Netherlands Antilles developed. Lots of talent there.

    Actually, I have no clue about them or the two new nationish things they've formed. I did play with them once in Football Manager and finished second in the Caribbean championship.
     
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    CONCACAF back to basics in new qual proposal
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    Tweaked WCup system would maintain Hex, see US get bye into semis


    US vs. Mexico in World Cup qualifying is not going anywhere after all. At least, that's the case if FIFA approves the proposed format submitted by CONCACAF this week.

    FIFA's rejection last month of CONCACAF's plea for additional World Cup berths – which could have resulted in the separation of the US and Mexico in World Cup qualifying entirely – sent the federation back to the drawing board. And what it came up with is more or less a return to the old system.

    The new plan calls for the six top-ranked sides in the region, as per FIFA's world rankings for March – the United States, Mexico, Honduras, Jamaica, Costa Rica and Cuba – to automatically qualify for the semifinal round, which features three four-team groups.

    http://www.concacaf.com/page/WCQ/NewsDetail/0,,12813~2347474,00.html
     
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    new format is as follows:

    FIRST ROUND
    The 10 lowest-ranked CONCACAF nations play a two-leg 1st round June 3rd and 7th, 2011.

    Montserrat vs. Belize
    Anguilla vs. Dominican Republic
    U.S. Virgin Islands vs. British Virgin Islands
    Aruba vs. St. Luca
    Bahamas vs.Turks and Caicos Islands

    SECOND ROUND
    The second round will see the teams ranked 7–25 joined by the 5 winners from the first round. These teams will be drawn into six groups of four teams at the main group draw in Brazil on 31 July 2011.

    The top team from each group will advance to the third round.

    Seeding
    Teams were seeded into four pots - Pot A included teams ranked 7–12, Pot B teams ranked 13–18, Pot C teams ranked 19–24, and Pot D the team ranked 25 along with the 5 first round winners; Athough not yet officially approved:

    Pot A
    Panama
    Canada
    El Salvador
    Grenada
    Trinidad & Tobago
    Haiti

    Pot B
    Antigua
    Guyana
    Suriname
    St. Kitts and Nevis
    Guatemala
    Dominica

    Pot C
    Puerto Rico
    Barbados
    Curacao
    St. Vincent
    the Cayman Islands
    Nicaragua

    Pot D
    Bermuda
    the 5 first round winners


    THIRD ROUND
    The semi-final round includes the six group winners from the first round
    and
    the top six ranked nations, who get a bye for the first round.
    Three groups of four, with the top two teams from each group qualifying for the final round. This starts in June, 2012.

    THE FOURTH ROUND (THE HEX)
    The hexagonal round is a single table composed of the six teams which advanced from the semi-final round.
    The top three teams advance to the World Cup
    The fourth place team plays off against an Asian, Oceania, or South American side.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(CONCACAF)
     
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    CONCACAF RANKINGS
    Last Updated 09 Mar 2011
    Ranking Zonal Ranking Team Pts Mar 11 +/- Ranking Feb 11 +/- Pts Feb 11

    19 1 USA 894 -1 25
    27 2 Mexico 811 0 8
    38 3 Honduras 620 1 7
    48 4 Jamaica 555 11 30
    53 5 Costa Rica 542 -5 -18
    64 6 Cuba 503 1 5


    68 7 Panama 482 -8 -36
    84 8 Canada 391 -4 -23
    92 9 El Salvador 373 6 26
    94 10 Grenada 360 -2 3
    95 11 Trinidad and Tobago 352 -1 1
    99 12 Haiti 325 -3 -24
    101 13 Antigua and Barbuda 313 3 10
    109 14 Guyana 284 3 10
    114 15 Suriname 257 3 0
    119 16 St. Kitts and Nevis 245 -1 3
    125 17 Guatemala 220 1 0
    130 18 Dominica 193 -2 -3
    131 19 Puerto Rico 187 -1 0
    137 20 Barbados 167 -5 -16
    146 21 Curacao 115 0 0
    148 22 St. Vincent and the Grenadines 113 0 3
    158 23 Cayman Islands 90 -2 2
    164 24 Nicaragua 75 -3 -4
    165 25 Bermuda 74 2 7


    166 26 Belize 66 3 2
    166 27 Dominican Republic 66 2 0
    177 28 British Virgin Islands 41 0 0
    182 29 St. Lucia 37 -1 0
    193 30 Turks and Caicos Islands 13 -7 -6
    193 31 Bahamas 13 1 0
    199 32 Aruba 7 0 0
    200 33 US Virgin Islands 5 0 0
    202 34 Anguilla 0 1 0
    202 35 Montserrat 0 1 0



    http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/r...fullranking.html#confederation=23914&rank=202
     
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    FIRST ROUND
    The 10 lowest-ranked CONCACAF nations played a two-leg 1st round June 3rd and 7th

    Aggregate scores
    Montserrat 3:8 Belize
    Anguilla 0:6 Dominican Republic
    U.S. Virgin Islands 4:1 British Virgin Islands
    Aruba 6:6 (4:5p) St. Lucia
    Turks and Caicos Islands 0:10 Bahamas

    SECOND ROUND
    The second round will see the teams ranked 7–25 joined by the 5 winners from the first round. These teams will be drawn into six groups of four teams at the main group draw in Brazil on July 30, 2011. The matches are foreseen to be played from 2 September to 15 November 2011.

    The top team from each group will advance to the third round.

    Seeding

    Pot 4
    Panama
    Canada
    El Salvador
    Grenada
    Trinidad and Tobago
    Haiti

    Pot 5
    Antigua and Barbuda
    Guyana
    Suriname
    Saint Kitts and Nevis
    Guatemala
    Dominica

    Pot 6
    Puerto Rico
    Barbados
    Curaçao
    Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
    Cayman Islands
    Nicaragua

    Pot 7
    Bermuda
    Belize
    Dominican Republic
    Saint Lucia
    Bahamas
    U.S. Virgin Islands
     

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