Draft Jimmer Fredette?

[RoyToy]

I'll just add that I've seen him play and I agree with the draft sites RoyToy mentioned. I also heard this year is the first year he has actually been asked to be a pure point guard and he has flourished.

Nice insight and good to hear.

4 different places now where it's been said McCamey looks good as a PG. I'm noticing a trend here.

[MickZagger]

I'll just add that I've seen him play and I agree with the draft sites RoyToy mentioned. I also heard this year is the first year he has actually been asked to be a pure point guard and he has flourished.

BS. He's been a PG since he came to Illinois.

[MickZagger]

Nice insight and good to hear.

4 different places now where it's been said McCamey looks good as a PG. I'm noticing a trend here.

Watch him play for yourself then. Shit, its not that hard.

[RoyToy]

Watch him play for yourself then. Shit, its not that hard.

Oh, I will.

In the meantime, try to keep up.

[MickZagger]

Oh, I will.

In the meantime, try to keep up.

Meanwhile, continue to have a stance regarding him.

[MickZagger]

Jimmer had 47 tonight in a win over rival Utah. He's definitely a gifted scorer.

[RR7]

I've watched McCamey play. Love him and want him. And the most consistent comparison I have seen and heard for him, and sure it might be because of the school, is Deron Williams. Hope he stay smid to low first so we can grab him, but he'll move up.

[MickZagger]

I just got done watching Fredette playing against #4 San Diego State. He put up 43 like it was nothing. Splitting double teams, crossover pull up jumpers, floaters in the lane. I'm starting to think he might have a future in the league.

[VanillaGorilla]

I just got done watching Fredette playing against #4 San Diego State. He put up 43 like it was nothing. Splitting double teams, crossover pull up jumpers, floaters in the lane. I'm starting to think he might have a future in the league.

It will certainly be interesting to see. I admit I've only seen him play twice, does it look like he can be a PG at all? Or will he just have to be a shooting/scoring guard?

[MickZagger]

It will certainly be interesting to see. I admit I've only seen him play twice, does it look like he can be a PG at all? Or will he just have to be a shooting/scoring guard?

Yeah, he definitely has playmaking abilities. Great at drawing in defenses and dishing to the open big man.

[Natebishop3]

I just got done watching Fredette playing against #4 San Diego State. He put up 43 like it was nothing. Splitting double teams, crossover pull up jumpers, floaters in the lane. I'm starting to think he might have a future in the league.

That means we won't have a shot at him.

[Blaze01]

Pretty sure POR has interest in him, before he pulled out of the draft last year, he was scheduled to come to POR for a workout....

[VanillaGorilla]

He'd be a good Steve Blake type to compliment Roy's superstar talents.

[MickZagger]

He'd be a good Steve Blake type to compliment Roy's superstar talents.

He's not as one dimensional on offense like Blake is. He reminds me of Dana Barros.

[Nikolokolus]

He's not as one dimensional on offense like Blake is. He reminds me of Dana Barros.

Actually I was thinking more Jaycee Carroll mixed with a little bit of Adam Morrison. He looks like a great college scorer and has really nice range, but he's going to get beat like a rented mule on defense.

[Natebishop3]

Actually I was thinking more Jaycee Carroll mixed with a little bit of Adam Morrison. He looks like a great college scorer and has really nice range, but he's going to get beat like a rented mule on defense.

So what you're saying is...

Jay Bilas might dust off his old, "he can't guard the chair I'm sitting in..." line?

[MickZagger]

Actually I was thinking more Jaycee Carroll mixed with a little bit of Adam Morrison. He looks like a great college scorer and has really nice range, but he's going to get beat like a rented mule on defense.

Jaycee Carroll couldn't sniff Jimmer's jock in college and they played in similar conferences.

[MIXUM]

Another Adam morrison

[PapaG]

So what you're saying is...

Jay Bilas might dust off his old, "he can't guard the chair I'm sitting in..." line?

The best part of that entire rant was when Bilas went on to say "YOU DRAFTED LUKE RIDNOUR WHEN REECE GAINES IS STILL AVAILABLE??!!??!!"

Hey though, Gaines did get some run in the D-League last year, where he put up a PER of 14!

[PapaG]

Anyhoo, about Fredette, if he wasn't a white Mormon, I think people might be comparing him to an Eric Gordon with a better handle, but with less athleticism.

If he tests well at the NBA Combine, I think he'll go in the lottery. The guy is a natural scorer, and he can get to the rim, at least in college.

[yuyuza1]

Would you guys take him over Kemba?

[Minstrel]

Anyhoo, about Fredette, if he wasn't a white Mormon, I think people might be comparing him to an Eric Gordon with a better handle, but with less athleticism.

Much less athleticism. Gordon is a tremendous athlete while Fredette would be way below average for the NBA. While athleticism is far from everything, it's a big deal in terms of translating skills from college to the NBA. The average NBA player is an order of magnitude higher in athleticism than the average college player, so with poor athleticism, it's much, much harder to get your shot off, drive past your man (either to attack the hoop or create for others) or stay in front of your man on defense. It impacts everything.

So I would say the far worse athleticism makes him completely unlike Gordon. A better handle doesn't make up for it when you can't get past a defender.

[BBert]

While athleticism is far from everything, it's a big deal in terms of translating skills from college to the NBA. The average NBA player is an order of magnitude higher in athleticism than the average college player, so with poor athleticism, it's much, much harder to get your shot off, drive past your man (either to attack the hoop or create for others) or stay in front of your man on defense. It impacts everything.

When did this become a thread about Babbitt?

Just kidding. It's. Just. A. Joke.

[Ed O]

Anyhoo, about Fredette, if he wasn't a white Mormon, I think people might be comparing him to an Eric Gordon with a better handle, but with less athleticism.

Fredette is going to be 22 in February, while Gordon turned 20 his rookie year in the NBA. Those three years make quite a difference.

Ed O.

[Nikolokolus]

Would you guys take him over Kemba?

Ummm ... no. I'm no great fan of Kemba, but he's at least got NBA level quickness. Fredette may be more skilled and a more 'electric' college player, but I would give Kemba a slight edge in being able to translate his particular skill-set to the next level. Having said that I think both are likely to struggle at the next level.