Weird (and Troubling?) Andre Miller Fact

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  1. PapaG

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    Of the Top 20 players in assists in NBA/ABA history, Miller is the only one who has never led a team to a win in a playoff series.

    Reggie Theus, at #22, is the next in line without a playoff victory.

    Going through the Top 50, Miller and Theus are still the only two to never win a playoff series. :dunno:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ast_career.html
     
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    It's easy to guard a player when they have no three point shot.
     
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    Better start Patty then.
     
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    I'd say the fact is more based on him playing for bad teams than him being the contributing factor.
     
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    Troubling fact: Nate McMillan has never won a playoff series as Portland Trailblazers coach. This is just a fact. I'm not making any conclusions. But it is worrisome, this fact which is factual. I mean, I'm just facting some factual facts here. :dunno:
     
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    Why are you being so negative PapaG? I have to laugh at so-called fans creating threads designed to rip players who have been major contributors for the team. Miller has a 24.2 PER so far in this year's playoffs. But your M.O. has always been an Andre Miller Basher. I guess if you get your jollies bashing Portland Trail Blazers... :dunno:
     
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    maybe easIER but not necessarily easy. Miller has not been around as long as he has because he is easy to guard.
     
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    Absolutely. Once the league figures out that Miller has no three-point shot, they'll start preventing him from driving to the rim for layups, free throws and assists.
     
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    Do you still think the team should have waived Dre at the trade deadline?

    Go Blazers
     
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    I'm just wondering if he is crying right now because Dre got a deserved contract. I'll never forget that he's the guy who constantly brought up Dre's quiet behavior and his inability to communicate with Roy. THAT was weak stuff, Bgrantfan... I mean PapaG. It made me think that you aren't a true fan of the Blazers, and are more concerned about being 'right'.
     
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    I have to agree on the Andre bashing. He is 0-6 in playoff series. Not all of those teams were bad. Denver was pretty good 5-6 years ago. If anyone is watching these games, you'll notice that many Dallas 3 point highlights have Andre Miller closing out late. He makes Jason Kidd look like an All-Star and he doesn't have half the speed of Jason Terry. Great passer, liability on defense, and no 3 point shot equals an average +/- of -6. Not a great stat for a point guard.

    May as well give one of our guards who has a future some playoff experience.
     
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    Because our other guards are doing so well on Kidd, am I right?
     
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    I pointed out a statistical fact that is relevant, now more than ever, since the team is down 2-0. How is that being negative?

    He has a fantastic PER and Ortg. He also has a Drtg of 119 for the two games. Does it matter if he has a PER of 50 if the Blazers lose the series? Roy had a 26 PER in the Houston series, and was ripped for dominating the ball.
     
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    If the Blazers don't win a playoff series with Miller, is it really a 'deserved' contract? I'm sorry I upset you the other day. People are on edge, and you seem to be leading the charge. I appreciate what Miller does, but in the playoffs, he's a proven loser.
     
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    Factual facts, can be quite facetious.
     
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    I didn't realize I was upset the other day... I really need to start wearing a mood ring.
     
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    What do you do, google "Andre Miller bad stats"? Is the guy dating your ex-wife or what?
     
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    It matters in terms of analyzing why they lost.

    I didn't see a single person "rip Roy" after the Houston series.
     
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