OT: Is Jay Cutler Done?

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  1. truebluefan

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    He's not done. He needs an offensive line before he gets killed, though.
     
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    agreed
     
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    When I saw the name of our thread I knew my response was going to be about our O Line. We desperately need help before we murder our QB core.
     
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    the o-line doesn't even care wether cutler dies or not
     
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    Cutler wasn't bad passing, but the running game has disappeared. They're throwing to Forte out of the backfield instead of handing the ball to him. And once GB got a lead, the Bears didn't even try to run. Must be nice for the defense to be able to play 6 defensive backs, knowing a pass is coming.
     
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    I don't follow football like I follow basketball, but it certainly *feels* like this is a problem with Martz. The Bears' offensive line and receivers are bad but I feel like they are also being put in bad situations.
     
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    I think they draft heavy on the defense side and the offense suffers for it. We've gotten lucky with a few offense picks. Like Forte and a couple of tight ends (that we let go).

    Cutler is a rare thing for the Bears: a quality QB. I would think the early draft picks would be WE and o line. But not!
     
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    agreed Cutler got a bad rep. but he will die if the bears can not protect him
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  10. transplant

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    IMO, what a team does in the first 3 rounds is most critical:

    2005: Rd 1 RB Cedric Benson; Rd 2 WR Mark Bradley (no Rd 3 pick)
    2006: Took Hester, who was originally listed as a DB, in Rd 2
    2007: Rd 1 TE Greg Olsen; Rd 3 RB Garrett Wolfe
    2008: Rd 1 OT Chris Williams; Rd 2 Matt Forte; Rd 3 WR Earl Bennett
    2009: Rd 3 WR Juaquin Iglesias (team didn't have any first or 2nd round selections)
    2010: No offensive players taken (team didn't have any first or 2nd round selections)
    2011: Rd 1 OT Gabe Carimi

    I see this as reasonably balanced...and not very good.

    As for Cutler, I'm a fan. I've been an active Bears' fan for 50 years and he's the most talented Bears' QB I've seen. Certainly not the most successful, but the most talented.

    I'm also a firm believer that NFL success remains a matter of your big uglies beating their big uglies. The Bears' offensive line has simply been sub-standard since Cutler's been here. This problem has been exacerbated by the fact that their receivers have also been sub-standard.
     
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    McMahon was the best QB I saw on the Bears. As a rookie, he was able to read defenses like a seasoned veteran. When I see highlights of the 1985 season, his phenomenal passes stand out. He was a great down field passer, able to get it to Willie Gault.

    He led the bears to a remarkable come from behind win against the Vikings, in a game Steve Fuller started. McMahon was in traction and just released from the hospital. He played the last 1.5 quarters and threw 3 touchdown passes. Bears came from down 17-9 to win 33-24.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/85bears/regular?id=5401532
     
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    God, I remember that Vikings game like it was yesterday. First 2 passes...2 TDs. Un-f'ing-believable.

    Agree McMahon was the best Bears QB I've seen. I think Cutler's more physically talented (size, arm strength, speed).
     
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    Yes. The most exciting game I've ever seen.

    Jay doesn't have that pizzaz. Should've gone to a Mormon school...
     
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    The title of the article is misleading. The problem isn't Jay Cutler but what the Bears do to surround Cutler with what he needs to be successful.
     

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